Did you get it, bro?

People waiting in line are shit at math, be it shoes, phones, watches, etc They are choosing to sit outside for hours to buy a watch when they could have been otherwise earning money. "But, but I am going to make a couple hundred bucks." Seriously, how much is time worth? Sell on ebay? Cool. Ebay and paypal fees as well as shipping cut down on that profit. Then throw in the time to do all of that. The opportunity cost associated with not working to make such little money is beyond anything I want to understand.

I did get seriously hyped when I first heard of Moonswatch but then I saw the news about the whole flippers thing (there are no Swatch Boutiques where I live) and my hype just disappeared, still haven’t bought it and don’t think will consider this one either. Unless it was available online then maybe

Only flippers will line up

You are either very bad at math as well or totally ignorant of the financial situation that a lot of people on this planet are in.

One could have easily made 300 Euros on the Moonswatch which equals about one week of minimum wage in a developed european country.

Why wait when you can buy online 😂

Haha, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Imagine you were lazy and/or useless. Nobody wants your work then. Thus no opportunity and ultimately little to no opportunity cost, right?

In that case standing in line is not much different to what you'd be doing anyway, i.e. nothing at all, and there are very few places that pay for doing nothing. So in their book it's a W and it makes sense (sort of 🫣).

My question is, when will AliExpress get the $20 reps?!

First world problems damn . It’s not an Warzone’s food line . Donate that money to your favourite charity, more satisfying than having an ephemeral plastic gadget.

This photo is from MoonSwatch release. You can track it down to Hodinkee. If you then go through the article you will see people in the queues on three continents who wear some serious watches. So it is obvious that those "useless noobs" have pockets full of money so that they can afford doing so. These are not the muggle drones who work for the enlighted queens and kings of watchism.

Just let them do what they want to do. It is their time, their money, their hobby 🤷🏻‍♂️

BTW, we're going to see Blancpain X Swatch watches on WRUW soon. Are you going to tell these members of our community that they are dump and useless folks? And what if those "fools" too have some serious watches by Omega, Rolex, Tudor, Cartier, Jaeger-LeCoultre and the like in their collections like the "noobs" in the queues at the MoonSwatch release? Are they allowed to put a historic bioceramic in their collections? And yes, these watches are not limited. But collectors know that there is something special to the very first tranche of a release. So queuing up to get hands on one of the first and to own proof that it is from the release date can be a collector's way.

$ 15,000, $ 25,000, $ 50,000, $ 300,000, $ 1,600,000 for one single watch? Really? I think there are far more watches out there that are worth to be re-allocated into charities.

Moreover what do we know about the spending pattern of these people? Do they have the right to decide on their own where to put their money?

If I decided to get a Blancpain X Swatch I wouldn't do it to use them as daily beater but because they are going to have their place in horological history. I wouldn't have guilty conscience because I donate a good deal of my money to charities local, national and international, already.

I get it, this watch isn’t for you. It’s your opinion and respect that.

But why look down on those “Bioceramic lovers” who want this?

That’s literal watch snobbery. But you do you.

Why don’t you sell all your watches and donate the proceeds to charity?

After all, watches are redundant luxuries and you can tell time more accurately without one.

And they will be much better than the original ones, just like Mission to Alaska.

Hilarious how people kissing the arses of some sales person for months on end spending small fortunes on stuff they neither want or need to ingratiate them selves spending thousands hoping to get some overpriced wrist trinket can look down their noses at people in a queue to buy a wrist trinket.

Then we have the im angry at people getting these then selling them on for profit telling people to go grey market and pay what ever the market demands 🤷‍♂️

Not my cup of tea but good luck to everyone that is trying to get one.

Chinese marketplace will get a hold of it and make a better copy of this just like they did with the moonswatch and have it available in Ali express in a couple of days 🤦🏻‍♂️

🤣😂🤣😂

You just don’t get the point. All your converting time into money doesn’t make any sense. You base your math on the assumption that the flippers do this instead of having normal jobs. Did it ever cross your mind that they could do both? That they are making some extra tax free money in their free time? You do realize that most of the waiting happens outside of business hours?

Let me give you an example based on your thoughts:

By looking at your stats I very conservatively estimate that you spent at least 125 Hours a year on this forum.

I can’t make an assumption on your income, but for the sake of this example I go with the average 30 dollars an hour in the US.

In your thought model this would mean that you have „lost“ at least 3750 Dollars while spending your time on the Crunch😜

Amusing how many haters have talked about Swatch for the first time while feeling smugly superior that they would never fall prey to the marketing. Ummm ok.

Time spent trying to earn money, is labor. Tax free or not. Working at a loss is a fools errand. My assumption is always if you are spending time to make money, the math needs to work, be is a job substitute or a job supplement. If I wanted to make $300, my time is better spent working, be it a second job, or better yet, overtime. Not wasted idly in a queue. That is not even factoring in the professional equity it may be earning.

Entertainment and social activity is why we work. It is not labor. $3700 a year on an annual entertainment expense? That’s a luxury I’m grateful to afford. If I couldn’t make ends meet because of the time spent on entertainment, that you would be equally foolish.

You have a conscience:) . I essentially think people who can pay $500K for a watch are probably contributing to charity. Most successful people do. I’m of the opinion it is the small things everyone can do , it isn’t a demand , I’m just trying to get people to think 🤔

If your a collector buy them , leave them in the box no problem, if your 18 and you want to look a bit tragically cool with a watch instead of an Apple watch at the next gathering cool . If your past 25 and this is still cool on your wrist , damn I got nothing but mild symptoms of pity . Just speaking a thought that a few will think looking at your plastic watch that it’s a bit juvenile. Just my old man bluntness .

You don’t know me , don’t assume and feel like you do

I just worked out your moniker , I am a bit slow hehe 😉 either your a very big hairy fella or have huge feet 🦶. Great play on words :)

So true...but...

I collect things other than watches...stamps for example...

Now without people willing to sell something for a few dollars on eBay, how would I find rare but inexpensive items for my collection?

If they are willing to spend the time to acquire the item, list the item, package it and ship it for a profit of maybe $1 or $2, then more power to them.

Maybe it's someone who is doing it because they are trying to do something useful with their time and don't have any other options...that's great.

Otherwise, I really don't understand the economics of it.

I understand bashing th flippers but why bash hype/swatch/plastic lovers? You don’t like it u do you, but why look down on someone who like it? Aren’t we supposed to be watch lovers here? Why all the judging?

From their perspective they can’t make them quick enough so the flipper debacle they create makes perfect sense.

No. I won’t get this watch. While I like it. I have a distrust about the non-serviceable movement. Anyone taken apart a SISTEM51 movement yet?

I'm all for these Swatch x " " collabs and think people should buy whatever floats their boat, but when it comes to flippers, that's a game I won't play. We can all play our part and make sure they don't win by being patient and not paying 'overs' for something that is not a limited edition. They will be back in stock so just play the waiting game and then the flippers will lose as they will be stuck with product they can't sell.

Because they’re useless at anything else ?