Why are we so obbesed with these terms?
I'm just gonna throw it out there, and believe me when I, say the terms Grail, Perfect Watch, and One Watch Collection and so many others make absolutely zero sense. Here's what I mean and you can agree or disagree. I get that we all had or have our eyes on a particular watch but we all know the term grail is nothing more then a term we all throw out there to tell others we spent a lot of money. OK so money is and will always be subjective. But once we finally get that ''Grail'' we're usually back online or browsing Stores for a next so called ''Grail'' To me a grail is a one and done dream watch. Next term the Perfect Watch WTF does that even mean? Is a watch costing $10k more better than one costing $1k? Not necessarily just because a watch may cost more doesn't always mean its gonna be perfect I'm sure a Rolex or an Omega have their problems here and there just like a Seiko or Citizen so how can someone say their the perfect watch? and lastly a one watch collection the only time I actually had one and only one watch was when I was in HS I wore a Two-Tone Citizen Quartz Chronograph I picked out for my Christmas gift from my mother when I was around 14? I wore that watch for another 4 more years after HS and even before I got into watch collecting I still have it. And here I am 20 years later after graduating HS in 2005 and I'm not downsizing my collection any time soon I hope to in the future. So do you agree, disagree a little bit of both?
Hi Everyone Im just your average watch collector I wouldn’t say I own or even have anything “Expensive” I usually collect brands like Citizen, Seiko, Mostly Invicta and other brands. Besides watches I...
We use them because we consume too much YouTube watch content.
We use them because we consume too much YouTube watch content.
I agree 100% about Youtube.
1) “Grail” (a term I hate) is used wrong frequently on here. @solidyetti had a good take on it recently.
Edit: Found it.
2) There is no “one watch collection”. Congratulations, you own a watch!
I do not get caught up in any of it. I may say something if someone asks a question but I do not give unsolicited opinions. I’m just gonna do me and scroll past what does not interest me (sometimes rolling my eyes as I do 😛). I’m here to have fun and enjoy watches! 😎
1) “Grail” (a term I hate) is used wrong frequently on here. @solidyetti had a good take on it recently.
Edit: Found it.
2) There is no “one watch collection”. Congratulations, you own a watch!
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Human nature is the answer. Well it is if you're a disciple of Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs. The human desire to be the best they can motivates virtually all of us. If individuals manage to achieve self actualisation whereby they feel they have reached their potential, very often that sees them push the boundaries further with a need to improve themselves even more.
Buying a "grail" watch, if that is something that helps you feel fulfilled, will after some time see the individual look for something else that's more beautiful, technically excellent, prestigious or whatever else that is of value to them. That's just how the human psyche works.
Given the continual improvements in technology, engineering, design, materials etc, combined with the huge number of new watches that are created, I completely understand why a watch is a grail one day, hardly worn the next.
It's not that I don't believe in "grail watches", I think for many people they exist. Where it falls down though is that many think that's the end of the journey, when in actual fact, it's the start of a new one.
I don’t do grails…and I don’t label anything dream this or dream that (life can change on a dime) but hey if it works for that individual go for it
If I can borrow a phrase from the world I work in, "hike your own hike." You're under no obligation to buy into any of the terminology, hype, or anything else that makes up contemporary "watch culture." Buy and wear what you like for reasons of your own and that's it. I don't like integrated bracelet watches (like the Tissot PRX), so I don't wear them. I love how chronographs look, but I do't particularly like wearing them, so I don't buy them. I would never say Seiko makes the best watches in the world, but I love them because when I went off to college (pre-internet and cellphone world) my dad took off his early 70s Seiko and handed it to me, saying, "You'll need a good watch." Owning a watch or a collection of watches should make you happy, not anxious.
I think a lot of this can be blamed on people taking shortcuts in their messages for the sake of brevity or ease. The definitions get blurred because people keep using the terms that are close enough to what they mean. If you try to have a really extensive conversation about just about anything, you usually have to start breaking down vague terms like these anyway. It's kind of annoying, but I don't see it changing.
I think a lot of this can be blamed on people taking shortcuts in their messages for the sake of brevity or ease. The definitions get blurred because people keep using the terms that are close enough to what they mean. If you try to have a really extensive conversation about just about anything, you usually have to start breaking down vague terms like these anyway. It's kind of annoying, but I don't see it changing.
Further to your point, it's also a shorthand way of signalling that you're "in".
All hobbies/industries do it to some degree. Hang around people that have been doing anything long enough and they all use terms that to an outsider are odd, and a bit silly sounding.
Further to your point, it's also a shorthand way of signalling that you're "in".
All hobbies/industries do it to some degree. Hang around people that have been doing anything long enough and they all use terms that to an outsider are odd, and a bit silly sounding.
As if we all don't sound silly enough as it is...
My mum always told me not to watch to much TV,or my eyes would go square well she's a liar,because all it did was fill watch boxes up and make me say gada beater and shiters 😂🤣
As if we all don't sound silly enough as it is...
Least we don't all wear wall clocks around our neck,,,,yet 😂🙄
I think it’s just people trying to add depth and a hierarchy to what is a fairly silly endeavour
If you visit a Pokémon card collector subreddit you will see essentially the same tropes
Service Merchandise haven’t heard of them in ages. Maybe you’re right but why do we obsessed over them?
WE don't.
Some do.
Least we don't all wear wall clocks around our neck,,,,yet 😂🙄
About those clocks... 😁
1) “Grail” (a term I hate) is used wrong frequently on here. @solidyetti had a good take on it recently.
Edit: Found it.
2) There is no “one watch collection”. Congratulations, you own a watch!
I've always interpreted the term 'grail watch' as ironic. The grail is supposed to heal all wounds, fill the hole in your soul, but no grail watch can do that. There will always be One More Slot in the watchbox.
To be frank, the annoying term I'd like to see more of is the 'zero watch collection'
We use them because we consume too much YouTube watch content.
This comment is "Pure Class" as the kiddos say on Youtube.
About those clocks... 😁
No that's just called sharing,everyone can read the time 👍🤣
No that's just called sharing,everyone can read the time 👍🤣
I know riiiight mate? 😂 🤣
Someone: What's the time? Oh... Nevermind, saw the clock... 😁
I've always interpreted the term 'grail watch' as ironic. The grail is supposed to heal all wounds, fill the hole in your soul, but no grail watch can do that. There will always be One More Slot in the watchbox.
I know riiiight... What's Grail today may not even be Grail tomorrow... Our preferences change as we mature in this journey. But the time the opportunity to get the Grail arrives, we may have realised that there's no such thing as a 'perfect' or 'grail' watch. It's a concept that exists only in our minds. N the watch makers are just catering to our fantasies n needs... 😁
To be frank, the annoying term I'd like to see more of is the 'zero watch collection'
Wait... Thought that was more like... The natural collection... 😁
I’m with you on ‘One Watch Collection’ — THAT makes absolutely no logical sense at all; if you’ve got one watch that’s not a collection, it’s one watch.
Human nature is the answer. Well it is if you're a disciple of Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs. The human desire to be the best they can motivates virtually all of us. If individuals manage to achieve self actualisation whereby they feel they have reached their potential, very often that sees them push the boundaries further with a need to improve themselves even more.
Buying a "grail" watch, if that is something that helps you feel fulfilled, will after some time see the individual look for something else that's more beautiful, technically excellent, prestigious or whatever else that is of value to them. That's just how the human psyche works.
Given the continual improvements in technology, engineering, design, materials etc, combined with the huge number of new watches that are created, I completely understand why a watch is a grail one day, hardly worn the next.
It's not that I don't believe in "grail watches", I think for many people they exist. Where it falls down though is that many think that's the end of the journey, when in actual fact, it's the start of a new one.
Well said. Happens with all objects. I once owned a 2002 c5 z06 in 2005 or so. Thought it was the pinicle of performance and I would never own a faster or more interesting car, as time past that turned out not to be true and I moved on
At one point an el Primero chronomaster was my “grail”. I have owned one for a few years now. It’s still my favorite watch but I lust after so many more models now for different reasons.
Well said. Happens with all objects. I once owned a 2002 c5 z06 in 2005 or so. Thought it was the pinicle of performance and I would never own a faster or more interesting car, as time past that turned out not to be true and I moved on
At one point an el Primero chronomaster was my “grail”. I have owned one for a few years now. It’s still my favorite watch but I lust after so many more models now for different reasons.
There is an underlying common belief that individuals that have incredible watches must have something wrong with them if they still covet something else. These individuals are never content, they don't appreciate what they have, they're spoiled. Part of this is driven by jealousy & part of it is down to our own expectations. We question their behaviour mostly because we think that we'd be totally happy & content with what they have.
Humans are naturally curious & inquisitive. We are continually expanding our knowledge through new experiences & a lot of this can be down to becoming less enthusiastic about interests we've had for a long time. It's no different with higher value consumer products, be it cars, watches or whatever.
I used to feel guilt when I lost interest in watches that I once viewed as the pinnacle of what I could afford. As a kid the 3 watches I strived for were a Santos, A Speedmaster & a Datejust. If I could even have one of them I'd be content. How wrong I was. I'm content with being uncontent with "grail" watches I've strived for, bought & subsequently sold. It's human nature :)
There is an underlying common belief that individuals that have incredible watches must have something wrong with them if they still covet something else. These individuals are never content, they don't appreciate what they have, they're spoiled. Part of this is driven by jealousy & part of it is down to our own expectations. We question their behaviour mostly because we think that we'd be totally happy & content with what they have.
Humans are naturally curious & inquisitive. We are continually expanding our knowledge through new experiences & a lot of this can be down to becoming less enthusiastic about interests we've had for a long time. It's no different with higher value consumer products, be it cars, watches or whatever.
I used to feel guilt when I lost interest in watches that I once viewed as the pinnacle of what I could afford. As a kid the 3 watches I strived for were a Santos, A Speedmaster & a Datejust. If I could even have one of them I'd be content. How wrong I was. I'm content with being uncontent with "grail" watches I've strived for, bought & subsequently sold. It's human nature :)
Yep. People who make $70k per year think people who make $300k must be insanely wealthy and can do whatever they want. People who make $300k feel like making $1m will solve all their problems and so on. People who make $300k can travel the world but they want to do so in first class and can’t. Making $1m per year you can travel in first class but want to charter their own jet and so on…
Yep. People who make $70k per year think people who make $300k must be insanely wealthy and can do whatever they want. People who make $300k feel like making $1m will solve all their problems and so on. People who make $300k can travel the world but they want to do so in first class and can’t. Making $1m per year you can travel in first class but want to charter their own jet and so on…
I saw this the other day & it resonates loudly with what we've been saying;
I currently have 18 watches and that's only because I have another six I am forcing myself to sell lol. There is no point in thinking of grail as you will just keep changing the goal posts upon ownership once purchased, and if you like watches there is no one and done watch really as and I think the best a sensible watch person would be one dress, one sports, one diver, but then again something else will always change your mind or catch your eye lol 😆