The forgotten Explorer Alternative?

The Tudor Ranger has been discontinued but I think for about 2.5k on the second hand market, it's 1/4 the price of the Explorer 1. 

It's a very honest watch with an ETA movement, Tudor Rose logo, smiley text, and a pop of rusty red. Kind of reminds me of a modern 1016.

What do it think?  

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Definitely a cool watch. Tudor should bring it back, shrink it to 39 mm, clean up the redundant text (does it need "rotor "AND "self winding"?) and sell it for $2-$2.5k. 

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Awesome watch. This would be a welcome return to Tudor’s lineup if they chose to bring it back.

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admit_to_IM

Definitely a cool watch. Tudor should bring it back, shrink it to 39 mm, clean up the redundant text (does it need "rotor "AND "self winding"?) and sell it for $2-$2.5k. 

Yes 39mm would be perfect with these skinny lugs 👌

Though redundant, I find the "rotor self winding" text endearing, as it's a vintage callback. 

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Bobofet

Awesome watch. This would be a welcome return to Tudor’s lineup if they chose to bring it back.

I really hope they do, give it the in house movement treatment 👍

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I think a revised Ranger Date in 38 or 39mm would make an awesome addition to the Tudor lineup: different enough from Big Brother Rolex, but filling the void left by the 39mm Explorer very nicely

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circleT

I think a revised Ranger Date in 38 or 39mm would make an awesome addition to the Tudor lineup: different enough from Big Brother Rolex, but filling the void left by the 39mm Explorer very nicely

Great point!  The Explorer 214270 wore quite a bit bigger than 39mm. I always hoped Rolex would've done the new Explorer somewhere in between 36-39. 

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They could update this model and bring it back to a wearable 36-37mm and see it selling faster than they can produce it

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I think the dial design is something that has a timelessness to it that bodes well should it ever get re-released.

I do however agree that there's need to be some work done to perhaps rebalance the case a little bit to achieve the sort of case to thickness profile that BB58 has been able to show (and is possible).

I think there's also an opportunity to properly design end links to the watch rather that it looking a little bit like it has an aftermarket bracelet (may be perceived as incomplete if not done).

As to whether it is a good Explorer alternative, I reckon in spirit it definitely has the potential!

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I agree with you all, 41mm was a big huge. Something below 40 would really nice. I would also love if they bring it back and don't put it in the BB line. It is nice to see some different hands and case design at Tudor. I would also hope that they get rid of the BB crown tube, as mentioned in other posts, this is for me a deal breaker. The bracelet could also have an end link. The rest I would love if they don't change, the printed numerals and marker are quite nice as well as the red seconds hand, no date is also a plus. Kenissi movement is for me not a must, ETA/Sellita would have a nicer price.

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Max

Yes 39mm would be perfect with these skinny lugs 👌

Though redundant, I find the "rotor self winding" text endearing, as it's a vintage callback. 

I had the same thought.  "Well, there were bumper selfwinding mechs back in the day."

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They dropped North Flag maybe a year ago.  A lot of folks believe this may be to make space for the Ranger.  I very much doubt it will be in the $2k range.  It looks like Tudor has left that space to Oris and a few others.  

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It  is a very good proposal and I almost got it some time ago. Great price, great heritage. A solid proposal. I concur with many of the commenters here that a 37-39mm would be great. In my opinion, for this type of watch it should be 37mm with 20mm lug space and full solid end links. Would keep the red seconds hand and although I have the new Explorer, would jump to the AD to reserve one. 

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watchaddictwt

I think the dial design is something that has a timelessness to it that bodes well should it ever get re-released.

I do however agree that there's need to be some work done to perhaps rebalance the case a little bit to achieve the sort of case to thickness profile that BB58 has been able to show (and is possible).

I think there's also an opportunity to properly design end links to the watch rather that it looking a little bit like it has an aftermarket bracelet (may be perceived as incomplete if not done).

As to whether it is a good Explorer alternative, I reckon in spirit it definitely has the potential!

Yes integrated endlinks are definitely in order!

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Pascal

I agree with you all, 41mm was a big huge. Something below 40 would really nice. I would also love if they bring it back and don't put it in the BB line. It is nice to see some different hands and case design at Tudor. I would also hope that they get rid of the BB crown tube, as mentioned in other posts, this is for me a deal breaker. The bracelet could also have an end link. The rest I would love if they don't change, the printed numerals and marker are quite nice as well as the red seconds hand, no date is also a plus. Kenissi movement is for me not a must, ETA/Sellita would have a nicer price.

There you go with the crown tubes again 🤣. I do love all the subtle vintage cues, hope they keep them consistent

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Katimepieces

They dropped North Flag maybe a year ago.  A lot of folks believe this may be to make space for the Ranger.  I very much doubt it will be in the $2k range.  It looks like Tudor has left that space to Oris and a few others.  

Yeah really sad to see the north flag go 😿

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marioap

It  is a very good proposal and I almost got it some time ago. Great price, great heritage. A solid proposal. I concur with many of the commenters here that a 37-39mm would be great. In my opinion, for this type of watch it should be 37mm with 20mm lug space and full solid end links. Would keep the red seconds hand and although I have the new Explorer, would jump to the AD to reserve one. 

Definitely downsize to 20mm lug width!  I don't have many 22 bands 😬

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Max

Definitely downsize to 20mm lug width!  I don't have many 22 bands 😬

Same here, but in this case, given the original Ranger used to be 34mm I believe a 36-37 would be appropriate for mountaineering exploring watches where less is more in more senses than just complications, but size too. A tapering bracelet is also a plus as I can attest with the new Explorer.

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marioap

Same here, but in this case, given the original Ranger used to be 34mm I believe a 36-37 would be appropriate for mountaineering exploring watches where less is more in more senses than just complications, but size too. A tapering bracelet is also a plus as I can attest with the new Explorer.

Yeah I always found it strange that Rolex backed the explorer all the way back to 36mm. Was really hoping for something in the 37-38 range. Maybe the Ranger II 🤞

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marioap

Same here, but in this case, given the original Ranger used to be 34mm I believe a 36-37 would be appropriate for mountaineering exploring watches where less is more in more senses than just complications, but size too. A tapering bracelet is also a plus as I can attest with the new Explorer.

Yeah I always found it strange that Rolex backed the explorer all the way back to 36mm. Was really hoping for something in the 37-38 range. Maybe the Ranger II 🤞

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A new Ranger in the ~37mm range while retaining that spade/arrow hour hand would be such a cool move. I think Tim Mosso called it a year ago, so I have at least some hope that Tudor diversifies it's model lineup this year.

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This or the North flag or an amalgamation of the two should go back into production 

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always slept on this due to the size. Could try looking for a 90s to early 00s Tudor 74000N if possible as the case might be around 36mm.

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Both Rolex and Tudor are now lacking a 38-39 mm Field Watch.  I bought the Heritage Ranger when I realized it was just discontinued.  But now would be a great time for Tudor to bring back the Ranger with a smaller (not too small) size.  The only problem being if they did it would probably be wait listed for 2-3 years the way thing have been going.  Oh well.  

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I've lusted over this Ranger forever.....but it has to be in 36mm for me.... If they'd 36mm this watch it would be the next BB58 phenomenon.

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I have the Heritage Tudor Ranger and recently changed the strap to a canvas one and what a difference it made.  I got the idea of the canvas strap from a recent review you did on the IWC Spitfire. You changed the strap to a canvas and it was just a great combination of watch and strap. I bought a similar strap and put it on my Ranger and it really changed the look. It not only made the dial pop but made it look smaller. I am loving the watch more than ever...   

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A new Ranger in a wearable size and the new movement would be a perfect EDC watch beside my Pelagos LHD. Hoping. 

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JohnReid

I have the Heritage Tudor Ranger and recently changed the strap to a canvas one and what a difference it made.  I got the idea of the canvas strap from a recent review you did on the IWC Spitfire. You changed the strap to a canvas and it was just a great combination of watch and strap. I bought a similar strap and put it on my Ranger and it really changed the look. It not only made the dial pop but made it look smaller. I am loving the watch more than ever...   

I had the same experience!  Changed to the canvas shown in the video. Boom, new watch!

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Could not agree more.  This is long over due for a re-issue.