Bergeon 7825 spring bar tool

So after struggling with putting the bracelet back on my Yachtmaster with cheap as hell spring bar tweezers, I finally bit the bullet and coughed up the $$$ to purchase the Bergeon 7825 Spring Bar tool.

I polled multiple watch owners groups and it seemed like a near unanimous 'BUY IT!' recommendation from the majority.

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Sometimes it is still technique and factors like a stiff bar so be careful and good luck

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I would be interested to find out how you get on with it, and if it is worth it

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I was looking hard at this just the other day.. but at this point I can't stomach (wallet) the price tag.

I did pull the trigger on a Horofix Spring Bar Tweezer from Esslinger dot com. I'm hoping! Waiting on it now.

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Scoopo

I was looking hard at this just the other day.. but at this point I can't stomach (wallet) the price tag.

I did pull the trigger on a Horofix Spring Bar Tweezer from Esslinger dot com. I'm hoping! Waiting on it now.

Horofix seems to be of similar quality at a much more reasonable price. Love mine!!

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How much did this cost?

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BrandonCLT

Horofix seems to be of similar quality at a much more reasonable price. Love mine!!

You have a link for those?

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I just bought a cheap $10 spring bar pliers kit on Amazon. Works fine. Was this expensive?

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Well I hope they are better than these …

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Like you I did some research and apparently these were the deal so I bought some used them once and I wasn’t overly impressed. They weren’t bad they just weren’t significantly easier than the standard tool. And - importantly - the risk of scratching the lugs didn’t seem sufficiently reduced to warrant the outlay.

Fortunately I was able to sell them on almost for what I paid for them.

I shall look at Horofix - if the price is more reasonable maybe my expectations won’t be so high.

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I’m planning on getting one with long pokies, just in case. Will share what you used?

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TimeOnMyHands

Well I hope they are better than these …

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Like you I did some research and apparently these were the deal so I bought some used them once and I wasn’t overly impressed. They weren’t bad they just weren’t significantly easier than the standard tool. And - importantly - the risk of scratching the lugs didn’t seem sufficiently reduced to warrant the outlay.

Fortunately I was able to sell them on almost for what I paid for them.

I shall look at Horofix - if the price is more reasonable maybe my expectations won’t be so high.

Can you elaborate? I’ve seen these too.

I’ve started to carefully place scotch tape on the relevant sides of the lugs just in case.

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Got something similar, can't get on with it. Use a 6767

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nick_jabroni

You have a link for those?

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CdeFmrlyCasual

Can you elaborate? I’ve seen these too.

I’ve started to carefully place scotch tape on the relevant sides of the lugs just in case.

I forked out as I was changing from a strap to a bracelet on my most expensive watch. And like you I taped up the lugs so as to avoid scratching them. I was expecting the pliers to be significantly easier than just a regular spring bar tool but it really wasn’t. While I got the job done and there were no scratches it was almost fiddlier and riskier than the way I normally do it.

I had a choice of two tip sizes and I think if I had the tips matched perfectly to the spring bar then it might have been a little better. They weren’t far off but the lack of a perfect fit there meant some slippage risk and so real care required.

Also with a regular tool you are focused on three points that might scratch the watch (the spring bar itself and two prongs from the V or U of the tool tip) and those are all in a very small area of focus.

With the pliers you now have six points that might scratch the watch and the action is happening in two “theatres of combat” separated by about 20mm. And focusing on both those simultaneously is harder than just focusing on one end.

All ended well for me - with care, patience and definitely the taping. But I really didn’t think the huge price of the Bergeon pliers was worthwhile.

I think my expectations were too high. It’s always going to be a fiddly exercise there’s no magic bullet that takes the fiddle away.

Hopefully helpful but apologies if the explanation is double dutch.

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Thanks, i bought a cheap one also with same results. I’ll make the investment now.

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I’ve seen many comments on posts like this one stating that this type of tool didn’t work for them. If you buy a $15 Amazon tool, you get what you pay for. A quality set like this Bergeon or the Horofix set are a true game changer for changing bracelets. *For leather/rubber straps I still use the 6767 spring bar tool.

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I put off buying these for so long, just wish I had purchased them much sooner.

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Scoopo

I was looking hard at this just the other day.. but at this point I can't stomach (wallet) the price tag.

I did pull the trigger on a Horofix Spring Bar Tweezer from Esslinger dot com. I'm hoping! Waiting on it now.

I second the Horofix springbar tool. Works like a charm for me. I admit, technique plays a role as well.

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I use the Horowitz and it works well. However, I keep my Rolexes on the bracelets.

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TimeOnMyHands

Well I hope they are better than these …

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Like you I did some research and apparently these were the deal so I bought some used them once and I wasn’t overly impressed. They weren’t bad they just weren’t significantly easier than the standard tool. And - importantly - the risk of scratching the lugs didn’t seem sufficiently reduced to warrant the outlay.

Fortunately I was able to sell them on almost for what I paid for them.

I shall look at Horofix - if the price is more reasonable maybe my expectations won’t be so high.

Can confirm, much better than these. 😎

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It’s 100% worth it if you like to change straps or bracelets on a regular basis. I bought a cheap one before and it broke on the first occasion. This never happened again with this one! ☝️

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TimeOnMyHands

Well I hope they are better than these …

Image

Like you I did some research and apparently these were the deal so I bought some used them once and I wasn’t overly impressed. They weren’t bad they just weren’t significantly easier than the standard tool. And - importantly - the risk of scratching the lugs didn’t seem sufficiently reduced to warrant the outlay.

Fortunately I was able to sell them on almost for what I paid for them.

I shall look at Horofix - if the price is more reasonable maybe my expectations won’t be so high.

Yep, those suck . . .esp. since you have to arrange the bits at the end yourself and line them up.

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Thanks pal!

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TimeOnMyHands

I forked out as I was changing from a strap to a bracelet on my most expensive watch. And like you I taped up the lugs so as to avoid scratching them. I was expecting the pliers to be significantly easier than just a regular spring bar tool but it really wasn’t. While I got the job done and there were no scratches it was almost fiddlier and riskier than the way I normally do it.

I had a choice of two tip sizes and I think if I had the tips matched perfectly to the spring bar then it might have been a little better. They weren’t far off but the lack of a perfect fit there meant some slippage risk and so real care required.

Also with a regular tool you are focused on three points that might scratch the watch (the spring bar itself and two prongs from the V or U of the tool tip) and those are all in a very small area of focus.

With the pliers you now have six points that might scratch the watch and the action is happening in two “theatres of combat” separated by about 20mm. And focusing on both those simultaneously is harder than just focusing on one end.

All ended well for me - with care, patience and definitely the taping. But I really didn’t think the huge price of the Bergeon pliers was worthwhile.

I think my expectations were too high. It’s always going to be a fiddly exercise there’s no magic bullet that takes the fiddle away.

Hopefully helpful but apologies if the explanation is double dutch.

Makes sense. I only want a pair because dealing with solid in links is difficult. You have to make sure the other end doesn’t go back in you sort of have to shimmy it out. It feels like the watchband equivalent of parallel parking.

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I always recommend collectors to drop a little extra $$ for general maintenance, cleaning and the like. It can go a long way to keep your collection looking and running smoothly. Of course I leave the serious repairs to the professionals. At least until i purchase one of those DIY watch kits Lol