BlancPain and Swatch?!

Oh man... I was planning to find a Moonswatch... but I may need to look at this while I'm at the Swatch store... dang my love of orange... this is even a real movement... $400....

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As long as you are okay with it being largely disposable (IE they can’t be repaired), they are neat looking watches.

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Well about the "real" movement, be aware that its not serviceable. Its a throwaway movement, i myself had a swatch with exact this movement and had to toss it after 5 years. Just something to consider.

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Bear in mind that it's a very thick watch, for no good reason except that Swatch decided it should be so.

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I'll get one online once the hype has died. I like 'em 😎👍🏻

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Looks very nice , even tho I'm a sucker for chronos I would choose this one over a moonswatch

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casiodean

Bear in mind that it's a very thick watch, for no good reason except that Swatch decided it should be so.

I can't wait to try it on! Full report next weekend. Lol

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Carnby

Well about the "real" movement, be aware that its not serviceable. Its a throwaway movement, i myself had a swatch with exact this movement and had to toss it after 5 years. Just something to consider.

Good to know. I like to quiz the sales people. Hubby does watch work, so I will sic him on them!

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I have two Moonswatches and I was about to buy this Fifty Fathoms one, but when I had it in front of me it turned me off. It looks and feels like a toy in my honest opinion.

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If you don’t mind that 400 bucks will be in the 🗑️in a couple of years

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Carnby

Well about the "real" movement, be aware that its not serviceable. Its a throwaway movement, i myself had a swatch with exact this movement and had to toss it after 5 years. Just something to consider.

Yup. It's built by robots with rivets instead of screws, and I don't think the case can even be opened to get to it. This is a watch with a strap made of recycled fishing nets that's going end up in a landfill in 5-10 years.

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Hrethgir

Yup. It's built by robots with rivets instead of screws, and I don't think the case can even be opened to get to it. This is a watch with a strap made of recycled fishing nets that's going end up in a landfill in 5-10 years.

Exactly, and its a shame cause i like the designs

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Hrethgir

Yup. It's built by robots with rivets instead of screws, and I don't think the case can even be opened to get to it. This is a watch with a strap made of recycled fishing nets that's going end up in a landfill in 5-10 years.

Like 90% of all watches that are sold and never serviced/repaired?

How many Casio F-91Ws end up being serviced when they break? Why is it Swatch is catching crap for this, but nobody mentions the fact that most Seiko watches will also be tossed in the trash when they break?

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Don't bother getting either. They feel like a 12 year old made them and will last two years max if you wear them. Big pieces of poo 💩

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KristianG

Like 90% of all watches that are sold and never serviced/repaired?

How many Casio F-91Ws end up being serviced when they break? Why is it Swatch is catching crap for this, but nobody mentions the fact that most Seiko watches will also be tossed in the trash when they break?

Most mechanical watches are not throw away devices, regardless of their servicing costs. They CAN be repaired and are made to be repaired.

The Systems movement by Swatch is irreparable for all intents and purposes. It's a largely plastic movement that's riveted together, designed to work until it fails then be tossed in the bin.

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Tourbillon1916

Most mechanical watches are not throw away devices, regardless of their servicing costs. They CAN be repaired and are made to be repaired.

The Systems movement by Swatch is irreparable for all intents and purposes. It's a largely plastic movement that's riveted together, designed to work until it fails then be tossed in the bin.

Fair, but in reality just because a watch can be repaired does not mean it will be. Most watches costing less than thousands of dollars are tossed in the trash when they stop working, and a new battery doesn't fix it.

There are more Casio watches in landfills than Swatch watches. Nobody complains about how disposable Casio watches are...

It's a contrived talking point peddled by influencers to put down something they don't like. I'd love to see that energy directed at TVs, phones, footwear, fashion etc... All of which are far more damaging to the environment, and disposable than a Swatch.

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danjam76

Don't bother getting either. They feel like a 12 year old made them and will last two years max if you wear them. Big pieces of poo 💩

Mine is nearing two years old and going fine...

It's ok to not like something, it's less ok to make up silly stories to justify your dislike.

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KristianG

Like 90% of all watches that are sold and never serviced/repaired?

How many Casio F-91Ws end up being serviced when they break? Why is it Swatch is catching crap for this, but nobody mentions the fact that most Seiko watches will also be tossed in the trash when they break?

Because people expect a quartz watch to be disposable, while they see this one being an automatic, and assume that means longevity. Especially at this price point. You're comparing a $10 watch with a $400 watch.

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Hrethgir

Because people expect a quartz watch to be disposable, while they see this one being an automatic, and assume that means longevity. Especially at this price point. You're comparing a $10 watch with a $400 watch.

A $400 Seiko automatic is more likely to be thrown away than repaired.

As I mentioned to another poster earlier, just because a watch can be repaired does not mean it will be. Lots of watches costing well north of $400 USD get tossed every year when they break, and people decide a new watch is worth more than repairing the old one.

Lots of Casio watches also cost far more than $10... You can't buy a F-91W in Canada for les than $20 CAD right now, and good luck finding one that low.

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KristianG

A $400 Seiko automatic is more likely to be thrown away than repaired.

As I mentioned to another poster earlier, just because a watch can be repaired does not mean it will be. Lots of watches costing well north of $400 USD get tossed every year when they break, and people decide a new watch is worth more than repairing the old one.

Lots of Casio watches also cost far more than $10... You can't buy a F-91W in Canada for les than $20 CAD right now, and good luck finding one that low.

I get your point, but it's nice if the movement CAN be maintained instead of purely made to be thrown away. And I don't want any luck getting an F-91W at $10 or even $20, don't want one.

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They are fun watches. They are heftier than the moonswatches. You’re buying a swatch…no one thinks it’s going to last forever

I have the Pacific. I love it.

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KristianG

Fair, but in reality just because a watch can be repaired does not mean it will be. Most watches costing less than thousands of dollars are tossed in the trash when they stop working, and a new battery doesn't fix it.

There are more Casio watches in landfills than Swatch watches. Nobody complains about how disposable Casio watches are...

It's a contrived talking point peddled by influencers to put down something they don't like. I'd love to see that energy directed at TVs, phones, footwear, fashion etc... All of which are far more damaging to the environment, and disposable than a Swatch.

Honestly, you’re right. I personally don’t wear digital watches (most of the time), I don’t replace my phone until it can’t be updated anymore. I’m a very hands on person and I generally fix my tech when possible.

It’s definitely a bit hypocritical to be down on the swatch while wearing a disposable Casio. I believe an argument could be made that the Casio will potentially last longer, being digital?

I’m a mechanical guy myself, and I’d personally never buy something that can’t be repaired. I personally do find it rather sad that swatch managed to alter the fundamentals of a mechanical watch enough to make it nigh impossible to repair. The world needs less disposable things, not more.

Anyway. That’s the end of my rant. 😅

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Hrethgir

Yup. It's built by robots with rivets instead of screws, and I don't think the case can even be opened to get to it. This is a watch with a strap made of recycled fishing nets that's going end up in a landfill in 5-10 years.

Normal Swatch Sistem51 watches cannot be opened and are sealed just like the quartz versions. However, this apparently does have a removable caseback. However, the movement isn't serviceable. Built by machines. They simply toss the movement and load up another one.

However, that is what all watch manufacturers are doing lately. In order to improve turn-around times and reduce costs, they'll just swap the movement, perhaps recycle parts or materials from the old movement, and send it back to you with a new movement.

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dswrist

Normal Swatch Sistem51 watches cannot be opened and are sealed just like the quartz versions. However, this apparently does have a removable caseback. However, the movement isn't serviceable. Built by machines. They simply toss the movement and load up another one.

However, that is what all watch manufacturers are doing lately. In order to improve turn-around times and reduce costs, they'll just swap the movement, perhaps recycle parts or materials from the old movement, and send it back to you with a new movement.

Yeah, and it sucks, so wasteful.

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Hrethgir

Yeah, and it sucks, so wasteful.

Capitalism, baby! Profits favor the wasteful.

I like to think they still recycle the old movements. But... u don't have high hopes on that.

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dswrist

Capitalism, baby! Profits favor the wasteful.

I like to think they still recycle the old movements. But... u don't have high hopes on that.

They might scavenge the metals out to either reuse or sell, but all the plastic is just going to end up right in the ocean where they supposedly recovered the fishing nets used to make the strap. But yeah, it's all about profits, no matter what they say about the environment.

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You might be lucky as the orange is the one they always seeming had in stock.