Watches in the Wild (Land of the Living, Volume 56)
Disclaimer: A somewhat out of focus, no WR JLC for a rainy day.
This is the fifty sixth in a semi-regular digest of cool watches I happened to see this week.
Past posts in this series have been hashtagged to #watchesinthewild
As always, my general policy is that I never ask for wrist shots (because approaching strangers and distant acquaintances to talk about watches is already weird enough) so all pictures below are sourced from the internet. People are mostly cool, I try not to annoy them.
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After a mad dash across the country for work, I am back in the saddle for normal time. Work needs to be done, kids need to be dropped off, and my other watches need to be worn.
I spent some time in San Francisco this week amidst meetings and a very desperately needed replenishment of my business wear. Like many of you, I grew rounder and more casual during the pandemic (oh those halcyon days of optional pants) but it seems increasingly that those days are over. The world is on the move again, my meetings are increasingly in person, and I must adapt.
That's okay though. I find my SF days are remarkably productive watch spotting and it doesn't hurt that I can pop into a boutique or two on the way to the drudgery of shopping for work clothing.
As such, some cool stuff this week. A few interesting fashion forward watches, some old standards, and some deep cuts from my favorites. Enjoy!
Chanel J12 in White Ceramic
Franck Muller Round Color Dreams
Seen on consecutive days on the wrist of a lovely woman who sold and then helped me rapidly tailor a sports coat. I did not ask about the J12 but did compliment the Franck Muller. She replied that it was a pure impulse purchase through her department store while on holiday in Milan. Amazing.
I see the J12 often on the wrists of fashionable women and almost always do a double take, because it looks awfully close to a plastic Fossil watch I used to see around. This is horrifically unfair to the J12 of course which has some fairly serious horological snob credits too its name. Indeed, inside is a Kenissi caliber derived from the celebrated Tudor MT5600 series thst powers the Pelagos and the Black Bay.
This is also no slouch in the spec department either. 200m of WR in a 38mm x 12.5mm scratch proof ceramic body. This is a real deal sportswatch and I can't help but think that if the name on the dial were something different (Omega or Tudor or Longines) it would be celebrated for how insanely good this watch is.
The Color Dreams is a women's quartz dress watch and what a Kaleidoscope of color it is.
I'll be the first to admit that I know shockingly little about this watch (had to Google to even get the name) but it was duly spotted.
Hermes H08 in Titanium
Seen on the wrist of a senior investment officer at a large family office who I had coffee with. On complimenting it, he thanked me and said that it was a purchase by his wife. Knowing me as a watch nerd, he confessed to bring a very cliche finance guy watch-wise (Omega, Rolex, Patek) but had worn this H08 more than half the time since he got it.
It scratched his itch for a square toolish sports watch that was not a Santos. It was 100% on the orange strap (my man!) and looked absolutely fabulous.
If I were to tell you that you could buy a good looking, comfortable, beautifully sized (39mm diameter x 45mm lug to lug x 10.8mm tall on a cushion case with a 20mm lug width) made from titanium with a custom caliber by Vaucher for $5500 new (and $3800 on grey market resellers), would that intrigue you? I hope it does, because it intrigues the heck out of me.
I often tell people to go try a watch on before you judge it but this time, I'm actually going to give you homework. The next time you find yourself in an Hermes boutique (or for that matter a Neiman Marcus or a Saks) bother the sales rep to open the case and try this sucker on because this feels to me like the modern counterpart to the Santos de Cartier.
Where the Santos leans neo-vintage, the H08 is thoroughly modern in materials and stance. The monobloc looking case and the dial are evidence that a designer actually touched this watch.
There's even some real watch nerd shit here. I mentioned the custom caliber by Vaucher, who counts AP, Parmigiani, and Richard Mille among their customers. Hermes owns 25% of Vaucher, so there's an element of vertical integration here (or as Tudor might claim....in-house). But even the clasp for the rubber strap has a sliding micro adjustment, similar to the lauded Formex deployment clasps except lower profile.
I wonder why these watches never quite took off the same way the Santos did among watch nerds. Perhaps the Hermes branding which is better known for ties and purses, works against them. Perhaps it is the natural conservatism of watch aficionados, some of whom still confess a lingering discomfort with jewelry and fashion brands like Cartier, Bulgari, and Chopard infiltrating the space. I get it. I have some of those odd prejudices too.
But perhaps that ought to change. You might miss out on watches like this one.
Tag Heuer Aquaracer 43mm Blue
Seen on the wrist of the leasing agent negotiating my office rent. He offered high. I offered low. We settled on something mutually annoying and mutually satisfactory. Which is about right for that sort of thing.
I also asked him about his watch and, fortunately, it was a much more pleasant conversation. He referenced always being a watch guy, but had something of a too broad collection (lots of Seikos, lots of Casio) but never really being able to settle on that one watch. Then a couple years ago during the pandemic lockdowns, he got engaged to his girlfriend and, as an engagement gift, she insisted that he get himself a nice watch to commemorate the occasion.
He ended up settling on one of two watches: a circa 2020 Breitling Superocean (before the crazy based-on-a-chronograph-but-not-actually-a-chronograph refresh) and the modern Aquaracer with the ceramic bezel. Not my choice, but it between these two I think he nailed the pick.
The Aquaracer is one of those watches that has historically had a bit of an identity crisis. It evolved from the Tag 2000 series, a watch family that was generally great but had perhaps more than a passing resemblance to the Submariner, in large part because of those Mercedes hands (though admittedly those old Heuer 844s look like a Sub crossed with a field watch, so there's heritage there).
Somewhere in the early 2000s, they split off the aquaracer into a real dive watch family. I find them notable, largely because they were dive watches that tended to look a lot more like racing watches. Lots of Chrono divers and tachymeters etc.
I think it took until maybe the mid 2010s for the Aquaracer to find a real identity when they settled on a dodecagon for the bezel shape and sword hands. There are aspects of the watch that are reminiscent of others (the sword hands are old Omega seaMaster, while the teak plank dial is somewhat Aqua Terra) but there are only so.l many ways that diver can look and I like this one.
The new Aquaracer draws on elements that were probably pioneered by other watches but melds them in a way that suggests influence but not homage.
I'd like to see Tag drive a bit deeper down this path, perhaps with a bit more color. The big Swiss luxury watch brands tend to be rather stern with their dive watches. Maybe Tag can liven things up.
Cartier Pasha 35mm (?)
Seen on the wrist of a gentleman in my parking garage. I asked if it was a Pasha and he laughed, said yes and asked if I liked Cartier. I responded that I really liked watches and this was a very cool one. I might have been able to stretch the conversation longer, but I was coming off a long workout and decided to shower and eat lunch. Still I'd like to think I brightened someone's day.
I didn't really get a close enough look to identify a specific model (and the Pasha itself is such an iconic design that differentiating between generations and models is hard at a glance) but I have always thought of the watch as Cartier's lost masterpiece. There's something wonderful about a sports watch that looks so radically different than anything else on the market.
From the T shaped Vendome lugs to the screw down crown cap (attached with a little chain of course) and that beautiful sunray guilloche dial that just captures my heart and my imagination.
Oh that's right, it's a Gerald Genta design so of course it is incredibly iconic, but perhaps with less of the hype than some of its genta-born Brothers like the engineer, the Royal Oak, and the Nautilus.
I do wonder why this watch never ended up being more popular than it is given our hobbies obsession with all things genta. Perhaps even for the watch nerd, there are designs that are simply beyond the Pale. It boggles my mind that you can find GMT versions of this watch or simple three-handers from prior generations for $2,500 or less, particularly for the 35 mm models
Still I love the way this watch looks and the way it wears. It spans sporty and elegant as well as any watch that I've ever known.
What cool watches did you see this week?
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The variety of watches is so good! Chanel J12 (the it watch when I started in the business), Franck Muller (the it watch brand in the 1990 and early 2000s), and Hermes (woefully underrated right now but as you said, it's because they're associated with other luxury goods and get unfairly pegged as fashion watches) ...awesome!
Oh, and the coolest watch I saw this week is the AP I have right now...yes, it is a hype watch, but that's not the watch's fault; it's totally badass.
The variety of watches is so good! Chanel J12 (the it watch when I started in the business), Franck Muller (the it watch brand in the 1990 and early 2000s), and Hermes (woefully underrated right now but as you said, it's because they're associated with other luxury goods and get unfairly pegged as fashion watches) ...awesome!
It was a fun week! I see a lot of J12s and it's actually gotten a ton better since it was introduced.
But that Hermes? Yeesh, that's a genuinely fantastic sports watch.
Oh, and the coolest watch I saw this week is the AP I have right now...yes, it is a hype watch, but that's not the watch's fault; it's totally badass.
I am loving your watch hands on these days! It's giving me ideas for my wife....who wants nothing to do with my degeneracy.
Some neat watches there, especially seeing the Frank Mueller, Chanel, and Hermes. As to the last two, our pal @Ichibunz recently acquired the Hermes at a steal. I think watches from traditional fashion houses still don’t get the cred they deserve within the community, largely because the average enthusiast came different them from the likes of Gucci, Coach, etc. Meanwhile, the two you mentioned, LV, and Harry Winston are doing far more in the space than other traditional brands.
I would be far more interested in the story behind a Hermes than a Pepsi. “So, I saw one for sale for $25k and my quarterly bonus was better than usual, so I pounced.” Yeah, that story is rarely interesting. One has to go out of their way for one of those other brands.
Kudos to another great post.
I’m surprised you saw all these watches with all the rainy weather we have had. Pretty cool finds all around but that JLC is another 💎.
I stopped my one of my lawyer friend's offices after a long mediation. I have known him for nearly two decades and I have never known him to wear a watch. But here he was wearing what I thought was a red dial Kamasu. From a distance it had some Tag vibes and I am no watch spotter. I finally asked him when he got the Kamasu (I was right) and he said he picked it up after inheriting some Seikos from his father. He had bought a few divers in the past few months. And another watch person is made.
I think of the Kamasu as weekend wear but it looked just fine with his suit. We tend to categorize too much.
Beyond that, it was a wasteland of Apple watches worn with blue suits.
Some neat watches there, especially seeing the Frank Mueller, Chanel, and Hermes. As to the last two, our pal @Ichibunz recently acquired the Hermes at a steal. I think watches from traditional fashion houses still don’t get the cred they deserve within the community, largely because the average enthusiast came different them from the likes of Gucci, Coach, etc. Meanwhile, the two you mentioned, LV, and Harry Winston are doing far more in the space than other traditional brands.
I would be far more interested in the story behind a Hermes than a Pepsi. “So, I saw one for sale for $25k and my quarterly bonus was better than usual, so I pounced.” Yeah, that story is rarely interesting. One has to go out of their way for one of those other brands.
Kudos to another great post.
@Ichibunz pics please!
It's almost like these exceptionally spec'd watches are like high end microbrands. They trade much more on the value of their movements and materials then any brand equity. The Hermes is a titanium sports watch with a Vaucher movement! If you slapped AP on the dial, it would be a $60k watch!
The stories behind these watches are almost always amazing. More people should have them.
I’m surprised you saw all these watches with all the rainy weather we have had. Pretty cool finds all around but that JLC is another 💎.
I do love me some JLC. A sporty world timer if there ever was one!
@Ichibunz pics please!
It's almost like these exceptionally spec'd watches are like high end microbrands. They trade much more on the value of their movements and materials then any brand equity. The Hermes is a titanium sports watch with a Vaucher movement! If you slapped AP on the dial, it would be a $60k watch!
The stories behind these watches are almost always amazing. More people should have them.
Yeah, besides the fact I have too many, there is a reason I am trying to narrow it down to independents this year and the occasional cheapo I cannot resist. That said, fashion adjacent, I tend to look at Montblanc more than one should. :-).
I stopped my one of my lawyer friend's offices after a long mediation. I have known him for nearly two decades and I have never known him to wear a watch. But here he was wearing what I thought was a red dial Kamasu. From a distance it had some Tag vibes and I am no watch spotter. I finally asked him when he got the Kamasu (I was right) and he said he picked it up after inheriting some Seikos from his father. He had bought a few divers in the past few months. And another watch person is made.
I think of the Kamasu as weekend wear but it looked just fine with his suit. We tend to categorize too much.
Beyond that, it was a wasteland of Apple watches worn with blue suits.
The madness spreads and it is glorious.
I have a soft spot for those oxblood Orient Divers (Kamasus, Kanos, Makos etc). I think Orient has such a wonderful command of color in its dive lines that most other watch brands (luxury or otherwise) should crib from. Deep reds, degrade teals, fume blues, the whole lot.
And of course they look good with a blue suit. What diver wouldn't?
@Ichibunz pics please!
It's almost like these exceptionally spec'd watches are like high end microbrands. They trade much more on the value of their movements and materials then any brand equity. The Hermes is a titanium sports watch with a Vaucher movement! If you slapped AP on the dial, it would be a $60k watch!
The stories behind these watches are almost always amazing. More people should have them.
Sorry… work’s been a hassle lately… constantly interrupting my Watchcrunch readings and pairings 😁…
Here’s a few pics… btw when I mentioned to @AllTheWatches im thinking of getting the Hermes he knew exactly what and where I was looking into muahahaha!! CB is the real deal “allthewafches!!” Hahaha…
Ok here’s some wrist shots but I should take some caseback shots too when I get the chance …
Sorry… work’s been a hassle lately… constantly interrupting my Watchcrunch readings and pairings 😁…
Here’s a few pics… btw when I mentioned to @AllTheWatches im thinking of getting the Hermes he knew exactly what and where I was looking into muahahaha!! CB is the real deal “allthewafches!!” Hahaha…
Ok here’s some wrist shots but I should take some caseback shots too when I get the chance …
That or we just shop in the very same small circle for similar watches! Gorgeous watch.
Sorry… work’s been a hassle lately… constantly interrupting my Watchcrunch readings and pairings 😁…
Here’s a few pics… btw when I mentioned to @AllTheWatches im thinking of getting the Hermes he knew exactly what and where I was looking into muahahaha!! CB is the real deal “allthewafches!!” Hahaha…
Ok here’s some wrist shots but I should take some caseback shots too when I get the chance …
This is such a a good looking watch! If you don't mind... what was the damage? Surely you got it at a very good price!
Wow!!!
The UK broadcaster, newsreader and journalist Fiona Bruce has been wearing a white J12 for years on TV and I come to admire it almost weekly on her. A classy lady in her own right and the watch is equally aligned.
Soooo beautiful
I really enjoy these posts, thank you for taking the time and effort. The only watches I saw this week were those that I wore myself.
Congrats to @Ichibunz on the H08 and to @Edge168n on the spot. These are absolutely choice and outside of the 2 year factory warranty, so underrated. I was snooping around an Hermes store a few months back for wifey when I saw the watches and then proceeded to completely forget my original mission. You definitely get more internals for the $$ than a Santos and the numeral fonts are Sofa King cool. Well done to both of you.
My spot this week:
Marathon Jumbo Pilot’s Chrono
When I first saw this from afar I assumed a Sinn. Turns out the guy was a test pilot for a major airline carrier and said he’d had this for a while as his daily wear and work watch. He liked the look more than anything and I commented about my assumption of a Sinn and he said “hmm, never heard of those. Will have to look them up!” I may have started something…
At 46mm this thing is a beast, but didn’t look out of place on his wrist. Great company, random model I honestly wasn’t even aware of, and even nicer guy.
Congrats to @Ichibunz on the H08 and to @Edge168n on the spot. These are absolutely choice and outside of the 2 year factory warranty, so underrated. I was snooping around an Hermes store a few months back for wifey when I saw the watches and then proceeded to completely forget my original mission. You definitely get more internals for the $$ than a Santos and the numeral fonts are Sofa King cool. Well done to both of you.
My spot this week:
Marathon Jumbo Pilot’s Chrono
When I first saw this from afar I assumed a Sinn. Turns out the guy was a test pilot for a major airline carrier and said he’d had this for a while as his daily wear and work watch. He liked the look more than anything and I commented about my assumption of a Sinn and he said “hmm, never heard of those. Will have to look them up!” I may have started something…
At 46mm this thing is a beast, but didn’t look out of place on his wrist. Great company, random model I honestly wasn’t even aware of, and even nicer guy.
I didn't know about the warranty which cools my ardor somewhat but at a 30-40% discount to retail, you a properly compensated for taking the risk. Such great watches.
Regular three hander marathons wear big. A marathon day-date Chrono must wear like a hockey puck! Your test pilot friend may find even a Sinn too reticent for his wrist.
Fantastic spot and love the conversation!
My wife and I have a bit of a glass half full, half empty relationship with luxury brand Hermes: after completing her university degree studies here in Toronto at a few different institutions her dad said he was not a bank, tired of paying foreign student fees as well as living expenses ordered her back to the family business in Taiwan where he hoped she could also marry some suitable young man. I am a decade older, a decent guy but according to persons who knew me well enough bad marriage material. We dated for 3 years with no thoughts of marriage until one November afternoon while checking the renovations at a department store where a friend’s company was redoing all the floors in different surface treatments, my friend admired the bracelet design of a humble 2T quartz Hermes watch saying out loud that the interlocking Hermes H is the same first letter of my last name. It was the 80s, I always felt that she should keep her maiden name after marriage when we chatted about that possibility. Long story but I bought her the inexpensive watch and proposed marriage. Decades later she was at a business event in Vancouver, decided to purchase a Hermes belt for me but did not purchase one that I preferred, she was assured that she could exchange with no issues here in Toronto Hermes boutique. I wasted more than an hour at the Toronto boutique dealing with a young Chinese woman who pretended that she looked Asian but was in fact a white society lady who was dirtying her hands dealing with a guy who just wanted to exhange a $1500 cad belt without making an appointment. My sis in law recently suggested a fun trip to Paris to get her name on a list for a Birkin this summer, Hell freezes over before I step into another Hermes boutique. However I remain a massive fan of the HO8 and a perpetual calendar moonphase that a friend wears when he is on Bloor Street where the usual perpetuals are too common.
My wife’s 80s quartz Hermes watch and the Tudor ceramic that she liberated from my stash as her beater watch.
I didn't know about the warranty which cools my ardor somewhat but at a 30-40% discount to retail, you a properly compensated for taking the risk. Such great watches.
Regular three hander marathons wear big. A marathon day-date Chrono must wear like a hockey puck! Your test pilot friend may find even a Sinn too reticent for his wrist.
Fantastic spot and love the conversation!
Yeah the warranty is weird in this age and for the $$ you spend at retail, but honestly not a deal breaker knowing the movement manufacturer. If they had a Ti on bracelet in the store I honestly might’ve gotten it on the spot.
I looked at your JLC longer and noticed it has a crown at 10. Reminds me of a Seamaster Diver 🤣
Helium escape valve! For all the times you deep dive and then decompress with a JLC GMT 💪
The UK broadcaster, newsreader and journalist Fiona Bruce has been wearing a white J12 for years on TV and I come to admire it almost weekly on her. A classy lady in her own right and the watch is equally aligned.
For all of her excellent and groundbreaking work, my most salient memory of Fiona Bruce will be her having to push Jeremy Clarkson in a Peel P50 out of an elevator on an episode of Top Gear!
I suppose she also has good taste in watches as well!
😂😂😂 @Edge168n this is too awesome 🫶
Harkening back, it was the complete opposite for me. - your no pants days were my : layers of stifling PPE and suffocating elostomeric N95s - 😣 But! - nobody gained weight!
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Oh my, what week of watches! This edition crushes last weeks huge and dull list of sightings.
Love virtually all the watches you saw, and have mentally been back and forth a few times on a J12 for myself. Will try on when I get the chance. Yes, might look too plastic … TBD. 🤔 And, Yup, about 25 years ago a blonde girlfriend of mine wore the white one as well.
That it was a legit sports watch is what drew me in. And now with the “in house” 😉 calibre. Would be so fun if Chanel gains a minuscule ownership edge and can force Tudor to call it a “Chanel 5600” in their watches
Hermes a great spot as well, and love that it’s an Onega Rolex bro that’s been converted. It’s is a bit too plain a colorway for me but a very cool watch.
Looking forward to more of your SF trips 🙂!
You know me, I'm constantly looking for interesting things to balance out the tidal wave of Rolexes around these parts. the conversion just makes it juicier!
I always enjoy the silliness of the arguments around in house versus outsourced movements and the incredible fuzziness brands harness when talking about whether or not they've developed the caliber (***cough*** Panerai/Tudor/IWC).
At the end of the day, the only thing I care about is that it functions the way I want it to and that I can get parts for it when I need them. Were it that simple!
My wife and I have a bit of a glass half full, half empty relationship with luxury brand Hermes: after completing her university degree studies here in Toronto at a few different institutions her dad said he was not a bank, tired of paying foreign student fees as well as living expenses ordered her back to the family business in Taiwan where he hoped she could also marry some suitable young man. I am a decade older, a decent guy but according to persons who knew me well enough bad marriage material. We dated for 3 years with no thoughts of marriage until one November afternoon while checking the renovations at a department store where a friend’s company was redoing all the floors in different surface treatments, my friend admired the bracelet design of a humble 2T quartz Hermes watch saying out loud that the interlocking Hermes H is the same first letter of my last name. It was the 80s, I always felt that she should keep her maiden name after marriage when we chatted about that possibility. Long story but I bought her the inexpensive watch and proposed marriage. Decades later she was at a business event in Vancouver, decided to purchase a Hermes belt for me but did not purchase one that I preferred, she was assured that she could exchange with no issues here in Toronto Hermes boutique. I wasted more than an hour at the Toronto boutique dealing with a young Chinese woman who pretended that she looked Asian but was in fact a white society lady who was dirtying her hands dealing with a guy who just wanted to exhange a $1500 cad belt without making an appointment. My sis in law recently suggested a fun trip to Paris to get her name on a list for a Birkin this summer, Hell freezes over before I step into another Hermes boutique. However I remain a massive fan of the HO8 and a perpetual calendar moonphase that a friend wears when he is on Bloor Street where the usual perpetuals are too common.
My wife’s 80s quartz Hermes watch and the Tudor ceramic that she liberated from my stash as her beater watch.
Whenever I write one of these, I secretly hope you turn up with one of your amazing stories. It did not disappoint.
Hermes boutiques are almost as bad as Rolex boutiques. At least at a Rolex boutique, they tend to serve me coffee.
I have had a notion to pick up a Slim d'Hermes Quantieme Perpetual some time, should come across $40K USD I feel I can part with. It's an amazing looking watch.
Whenever I write one of these, I secretly hope you turn up with one of your amazing stories. It did not disappoint.
Hermes boutiques are almost as bad as Rolex boutiques. At least at a Rolex boutique, they tend to serve me coffee.
I have had a notion to pick up a Slim d'Hermes Quantieme Perpetual some time, should come across $40K USD I feel I can part with. It's an amazing looking watch.
My wife might understand but I cannot justify the dollars, if I were a much younger man with years and years ahead to enjoy that watch but still a lot of money, haha. Take great care!
My wife might understand but I cannot justify the dollars, if I were a much younger man with years and years ahead to enjoy that watch but still a lot of money, haha. Take great care!
I love that BB ceramic! so it hurt my ears to hear it called a beater.
But - I’m thinking we define beater differently?
For me, a ‘beater’ is a watch for stuff like digging a perimeter drainage trench, or painting a wall. It’s a watch that will likely get beaten up …and it doesn’t matter since it’s relatively inexpensive and scars are cool.
My normal daily watch is likely to be exposed to water, sweat, vibration (I commute by bicycle and train frequently) and the odd knock against something hard.
But, the watches are built to be fine with it. So it’s no issue at all.
I suspect my ‘normal watches’, like this 100m WR, screw crown, Ti, GS Shunbun… might be defined as a beater under your (wife’s?) definition?
(BTW I deleted the earlier comment as I was concerned it would be misread as offensive - glad it wasn’t! 😉)
I love that BB ceramic! so it hurt my ears to hear it called a beater.
But - I’m thinking we define beater differently?
For me, a ‘beater’ is a watch for stuff like digging a perimeter drainage trench, or painting a wall. It’s a watch that will likely get beaten up …and it doesn’t matter since it’s relatively inexpensive and scars are cool.
My normal daily watch is likely to be exposed to water, sweat, vibration (I commute by bicycle and train frequently) and the odd knock against something hard.
But, the watches are built to be fine with it. So it’s no issue at all.
I suspect my ‘normal watches’, like this 100m WR, screw crown, Ti, GS Shunbun… might be defined as a beater under your (wife’s?) definition?
(BTW I deleted the earlier comment as I was concerned it would be misread as offensive - glad it wasn’t! 😉)
My wife is a special individual, one of a kind. She really doesn’t care a lot for material objects, not much of a watch person but the best person that I will ever meet in this life. When we were starting out together, not a lot of experience with living a normal life, she once put a brand new Cartier wallet through a wash and dryer. She studied fashion design in Manhattan and Milan so of course she ends up a director in some finance company owned by IA insurance. That black ceramic Tudor is a wonderful timepiece can take a bit of abuse, haha. Take care my good man! Continue loving your watches. ❤️