New Seiko 5 Sport GMT

HODINKEE has an article about the release of a new Seiko 5 Sport GMT coming out soon. What are your thoughts?  Will you buy one?  Photos are from the HODINKEE website. 

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Wow!!!!!! The orange one looks fantastic 🔥🔥🔥

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I like it!  I may pickup the black when they become available.

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I might grab one if I can mod it with a diver bezel insert. 

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I'm likely going to pickup the blue one.  The orange has me thinking though.

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I will not. After experiencing a cyclops in real life, it now cannot be on any watch I buy.

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Absolutely love them! The price seems a bit too high in my opinion, would be more appropriate if it had sapphire 

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Appears that it launches in the UK on 7/1 and preorder is available there now...hope it launches in the US soon.

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deng cant decide which color to grab! 

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Seiko's getting pretty ambitious with their pricing...

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I will buy the black and grey on day 1!

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Smart move, beautiful bracelet. Definitely the Seiko I would recommend over the normal 5KX just like how I recommend the DressKX to non watch enthusiast friends

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My local AD sells these like hotcakes, and he stocks every version.  I've had my paws on these quite a bit and they are nice.  But, the smaller sizes, (I have an 8" wrist) and lighter construction doesn't appeal to me at all.  The Prospex line is worth the price of admission.

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In a word: YES. 

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First, absolutely a looker with a great price.  I'll probably grab one when production really kicks up for them.

Second, it's a little strange that they made a caller GMT for this instead of a flyer.  They already have a higher end flyer GMT movement in the 6R64.  I would  have thought it would be more cost effective to just adapt that movement to a cheaper watch instead of making a new one.

I'll never quite understand the specific choices that Seiko makes.

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I will buy the orange

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Yes! have them ordered already 😅

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Question regarding this GMT movement. As discussed this a caller-GMT vs a flyer. I've read a couple of articles on these references. One specifically stated that "a caller-GMT is not a reason to complain...just set the GMT hand to home and adjust hour hand as you travel" (or something to this point). This is fine I suppose but all non-true-GMTs that I've handled have the GMT hand slaved the main hands.

Does anyone know if these will operate the same; i.e. slaved, or if you will be able to adjust the main hands without the GMT hand moving...by the way I'm not sure how this would work movement-wise. 

Also, has anyone read how the bezel will operate; 120-click undirectional or 24 click bidirectional? Can't find any articles that have described the operation. 

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I'm tempted to get the orange dial since I never own one with that kind of colour.

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Grady78

Question regarding this GMT movement. As discussed this a caller-GMT vs a flyer. I've read a couple of articles on these references. One specifically stated that "a caller-GMT is not a reason to complain...just set the GMT hand to home and adjust hour hand as you travel" (or something to this point). This is fine I suppose but all non-true-GMTs that I've handled have the GMT hand slaved the main hands.

Does anyone know if these will operate the same; i.e. slaved, or if you will be able to adjust the main hands without the GMT hand moving...by the way I'm not sure how this would work movement-wise. 

Also, has anyone read how the bezel will operate; 120-click undirectional or 24 click bidirectional? Can't find any articles that have described the operation. 

Most GMT movements these days don't use a slaved GMT hand -- Vostok still does and the original GMT Master did, but nowadays, most GMT watches are Office GMTs as described below.  I think that part of your confusion is the terminology that you're using.  To keep things simple:

A true or traveler’s GMT has a local hour hand that you can move forward or backward in increments of one hour using the first pullout (middle) position of the crown.  To do this, you surrender a quickset date option and must advance or reverse the local hour around the dial to set the desired date.  The GMT hand itself can only be set by hacking the movement.  Notable examples: Rolex GMT Master II, Tudor Black Bay GMT, Longines Spirit Zulu Time, Certina Action DS GMT, Mido Oceanstar, Grand Seiko GMTs and Seiko Sharp Edge GMT.  Watches with travelers GMT movements tend to be more expensive.  The Certina was the cheapest one I’ve ever seen.  More recent ETA GMT movements, based on the Powermatic 80 family seem to be adopting the traveler’s GMT complication, as evidenced by the Mido, Certina and Longines.

An office GMT functions like a normal watch with a quickset date.  However, if you rotate the crown in the opposite direction when setting the date, it will typically advance the GMT hand by one hour increments.  The movement is not hacked to do this. The GMT hand is locked to a single direction of travel and does not interact with the date function.  Most GMT watches function like this, including anything powered by an ETA 2893-2 or derived movement, including the SW330-1, Soprod C125, etc.  Some Chinese manufacturers have jury-rigged a GMT movement onto their clones of the 2824 and 2836 by swapping out the day function for a GMT hand (E.g. Hangzhou 6460).   These also function like an office GMT but can be identified by the fact that the GMT hand can only be moved counterclockwise.

I would expect the bezels to be unidirectional rather than bidirectional for the simple reason that Seiko already has the manufacturing capacity for unidirectional bezels, so it's cheaper for them to continue to use it.

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This is what I expected. When I said slaved I meant that the relative time difference between the GMT hand and main hands is kept constant after setting the GMT position in the ETA and similar functioning movements. 

I travel frequently and I dislike adjusting main hands then going back and adjusting my home time (GMT hand). First world problem but my search continues. 

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I was going to, and then I bought another diver from the Prospex line at the weekend, so I probably won't. 

These are a cheap (relative) entry into GMT ownership though.  I know it's just a caller GMT movement, but it's a £400 watch, what exactly was expected?

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Just placed my pre-order for a SBSC003, the Japanese release of the SSK003. I'd rather not have to fight the North American online wait lists and over inflated, scalping prices. Typically my Seiko orders show up on my doorstep within 5 days after the release date. 

I have to say, the only thing that gave me pause was the Hardlex crystal which I hope to replace with a blue AR sapphire cyclops. Can't wait. 

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Picked mine up a day early.