I didn't see this actually happening 🥳

Four times the price for the upgrade from 7S to 4R? Yeah, no thanks. 👎

The dial looks matte and flat compared to the SNXS79. The fauxtina is ugly and the chapter ring in a contrasting color is distracting. Mineral crystal at 400€, yikes. This is a hard pass for me, they didn't do the original justice at all. Another proof that Seiko is becoming out of touch with these price increases and a far cry from the value king it was a few years back.

I'm curious to see a profile picture to see if they kept the protruding case back giving the original this UFO look that sits so awkwardly on the wrist. 😂

The SNXS79 has always been a double edged sword for me: best Seiko 5 dial 👍in the worst Seiko 5 case. 👎

You're almost forced to buy an SNK on top to swap the case and finally get a good watch for the price of two. But even then, two 100€-120€ Seikos seems like a bargain compared to this 400€ re-issue.

Picture courtesy of @benswatchclub

These product photos rarely show the real dial colours and texture. The price hike is sad, but expected. Seiko stopped being the value brand in 2019. Let's see how the case ends up, but looking at the numbers, it's gonna be thick, just like every current automatic Seiko under 2000 €.

The originals look better.

What a cool release! 🙌🏼I’d love to see one with a GMT complication, it’d be awesome!

Judging from the data, it's still over 12mm high, so probably will have the same case back.

I wonder what it'll look like irl, but I do recon there will be loads of new color combos as well.

But I get you, I also swapped out the case back on my SNXS for a slimmer one, made the watch was more wearable

Yeah, I think there'll be loads of new combinations and variants. Exciting, the SNXS was defenitly the best choice to remake, out of the old Seiko 5s

Personally, I feel the originals of most watches are the best looking ones. They are the purest form of the designers idea, every other watch after it is just an evolution of the same design. To each their own though.

Ah, if only it was a Seiko "4" and didn't have that hideous date! Damn shame, love that shape of case.

Alright I'm excited about these. Especially with the 37mm diameter! I think they'd look killer on a NATO.

Not a fan. The aged lume, contrasting chapter ring, and red seconds hand are all a miss for me. Case dimensions are also not ideal. 37mm is a little on the small side for me personally, but 12.5 thick and 18mm lug width aren’t exactly ideal dimensions for most. Add to that a 400€ price and Hardlex crystal and you’re not getting much in terms of value. Hard pass.

I would have loved to see this closer to 39mm, 20mm lugs, 11mm thick. Keep the dials similar to the original, and (gasp) sapphire crystal 😱.

Yeah I enjoyed the originals too, but I found the design was not individual enough.... the inspiration was a bit too clear. The new version looks like they're going their own path now, which I prefer

Yeah, that would be interesting as well!

Yes! The size is ideal, but the case back needs to be a bit flatter for a Nato :D

Good point!

Yeah, agree about the colors. But I think there will be many more color variatons. I really love the size, but the height is strange. Might need a flatter case back mod again.

They are what they are and everything has their added value, that what make them difference. I bought a pagani because the og doesn't offer it in auto, yet I didn't compare it to the og since they are distinct enough.

Yes with the current iso, but the water resistance parameter still the same, try that with the 5kx.

Yeah, I think it's really cool that they revived the SNXS at all, let alone this soon!

I liked the SNXS, but I appreciate the direction they're going, by making these a bit more unique. The sapphire would definitely have been a welcome change

Apparently the price was increased just before they became unavailable.

The old case was fully polished, I feel this looks a bit more casual, with some brushed surfaces

Completely agree. Didn't understand the "Dive-Style" 5KX, really enjoyed the Dress KX, but this makes the most sense to me.

Yeah, the logos seem to be quite the topic in forums. My biggest Seiko Logo issue was when they forgot the "Alpinist" name on the Reissue ...

Haha forget about the "apparently", my AD told me they increased from 129€ to 139€ and then they because unavailable. But it also doesnt matter, since only the new version is going to be available for 400 MSRP

You really are overestimating the knowledge of the average non-watch person who just wants to buy a time-telling device that’s not an Apple Watch by a mile. “Just a normal watch, to wear to weddings and stuff”. How do I know that? I was a non-watch person before the pandemic.

You should see the faces friends and family make when I tell them that the watch I’m wearing does not require a battery. The fact that it is powered by my movement for about 80 hours just baffles them.. “Why not just buy a watch with a battery instead? It will last you longer than 80 hours… You got scammed.”

Seiko 5 watches have one job only, and it is converting non-watch people in watch people that will later buy the higher end Seiko models. That’s why they have glass casebacks, they educate the wearer by showing them what’s inside and why mechanical watchmaking is cool

Well, then we are agreeing in that they won’t care if one is a quartz warch or if the other is an auto.

They’ll buy on looks and, perhaps, on the “Swissness” or “Japaneseness” of the watch, whatever that means, but ultimately on price. That’s why in order to compete with this market (PRX, Tsuyosa, etc.) Seiko will have to eventually pull down the MSRP on this release, as I was saying in my first post.

I’m really getting tired of getting called names without you even reading what I just posted, so I won’t spend much more of this evening with you.

Base models at MSRP in Germany:

• Tsuyosa = 299€

• PRX quartz = 375€

• Seikos new release SNXS whatever they want to call it = 400$ (we’ll see the price in €)

If they want to compete in this market catering to non-enthusiasts, to people just looking for A Watch, Seiko will have to drop the price to compete. Whatever you think is entry level luxury or low end quartz or whatever we tell fo each other to justify our purchases is of no relevance to anybody outside of this hobby who’s just looking to buy a nice watch.

Consider this my last reply to you.

They had it proper before, they just had to make more of it...why change what's not broken? I'd love to see the market research and talk to the folks at Seiko that made this decision with the 5 and the X. Now that's it's done, has there been any uplift? has it actually moved the needle?

What was the argument again? LOL

In every new release there is always too expensive, too small, too big, too thick, too thin too whatever excuse there is NOT to buy it....then don't? I think they are beautiful watches but if it doesn't meet your expectations buy something else or don't buy anything.

I am actually glad Seiko is raising their prices, it's about time they got the respect it deserves. For what it is, this is a fully in house (yes, this has way too much weight nowadays but it sticks), automatic wrist watch made by a 143 year old company that has been in continious operation with legendary following. Why should be still be regarded as value watches? Why does a company named after a Tyrant Tudor get to sell mass produced SS peices for $4000 and when it raises it's price by 10% it's all good? Tudor isn't a luxury brand either if you ask me in the shadows of Rolex so what gives?

Besides everyone else is raising prices like it's in fashion, why shouldn't Seiko be part of that? JLC raised prices by 30% in the last 2 years for the same exact product year after year, at least Seiko only raises prices on their new models. There you go, that's the value proposition.

They look cool. Great size, great case shape, and we all know you'll be able to get these at a 25% discount without even asking for one. I'm in, but excited to see the inevitable parade of dial variants.