Do 'clean up' initiatives persuade you to buy?

These actually kind of turn me off. I prefer an ‘apolitical’ watch as with all my stuff.

I'm really liking it. So much so, since it's arrival last Wednesday, it's been the watch I've picked over my Tudors and Omegas. I'm not saying it's better than any of them, but I'm really enjoying it more than I expected.

As for how much they donate to PADI, I don't know. These aren't expensive watches so I imagine the donation isn't large, but small donations are better than none.

That's fair enough, I get the same vibes on other products. I guess it's hard to offer this sort of thing without some people not liking it.

No. In fact, John P Watches just did a scathing review of Oris on this topic.

Yes. I don't care about ESG because the vast majority is just marketing with some token involvement. Give me a good product and keep your causes/politics to yourself.

I haven't seen that.

I was aware that Oris do these, and I've looked at some of their range, but having tried an Aquis and not feeling much love for it, I didn't look any closer at their offerings.

I'm all for protecting the environment and all, but if it looks like 💩 definitely won't get it. At the end of the day I have to enjoy my watch.

Absolutely, it has to tick all the required boxes before it's a consideration for me. I wouldn't buy a watch solely on the basis of their environmental policies, but if the watch is good (Subjectively) and that's an additional 'benefit' then I think it's a worthy consideration 👍

Knowing that a brand is eco-friendly will affect my perception and respect for the brand, but I wouldn't buy a special edition just for that reason alone.

That being said, I find a lot of Save the Ocean dials attractive, like the dark manta and the penguins ones, so I could buy one for the aesthetics. 👍

Nice watch my friend don't be modest your purchase and mine saved the ocean alone and that's exactly why we bought them,nothing to do with them looking like a blue birch 62mas 😂👌no I bought because of the dial too nice to tell people it's a save the ocean people care more about that bit than me showing them the dial and saying its a seiko,if I was going to save something I'd like to be physically apart of it or not at all if your passion is something you would be there that's why there's a watch on my wrist mind heart TV phone 🍻👌to saving the ocean and cool watch dials at affordable prices

I don’t want to sound like I don’t care. But, I buy based on the style, design and comfort. If part of the proceeds go to help the environment, bonus.

I don’t expect the money they give to the charity will offset environmental costs of manufacturing and distribution.

Not really…building a beautiful watch will make me drop some cash like a middle aged man at a strip club.

Never been a reason to buy. Any time a brand states that they share/donate a portion of proceeds to a cause I think it's bullshit. Paint Seiko on an armada of boats and set sail for the great pacific garbage patch and I'll start to believe. You too Oris. This is the same feel good scheme that Warren Buffet uses when he talks about how much he's given away. Rolex is one of the most profitable non-profit organizations in the world. It's all just a tax shelter scheme . This is the garbage patch from space. I'll bet there are a few Seiko parts floating in the patch. All said with much love to Seiko

I too prefer my watches to be apolitical.

The brand that does this best (but not perfect) is Oris. They used recycled ocean plastic to make unique dials in one of their Oris models, and on some of their Big Crown models they use Cervo leather, made from scraps after dear hunting.

I respect conservation and creating less waste. I don’t own any of those models though. Just respect it.

I think aesthetics reign supreme in purchasing decisions, marketing antics like “Clean the Ocean” only provides added “reason” for you to buy the watch. If you like the watch enough you will buy it with or without any campaigns tagged to it.

I had a Seiko Save the Ocean Great White Shark edition in a Samurai case and I bought it for the dial first, and the case second (thinking I would like to have a Samurai). The cause was a distant third. I sold it in the end because I didn't end up gelling with the case.

I don't think they are claiming to offset the environmental side of the manufacturing, more about helping PADI with their efforts to clean up the Ocean.

This does raise another question though; if they weren't making a song and dance about saving the ocean, would we even think about the impact of manufacturing and distribution?

That's a fair comment. Certainly how I made my purchases.

Thanks for the link, interesting read.

Since starting this post I had a brief look into how much Seiko donates, but found no figures.

I'm inclined to believe that they donate something because they release PADI collaboration watches quite frequently, and PADI would be wanting their cut!

But it would be good to see some figures on how much is donated.

Not really care about the marketing gimmick, but some dials are really pretty

I have to say I love when they do these things. Good on Oris for doing what they can as well. I don't see the wellbeing of our worlds future as a political thing. As long as the watch they are creating is a quality product of genuine inspiration.

I want the watch that supports the Congress acknowledging Unacknowledged special access programs into zero point energy release and reclaim the lost century of suppression of clean technologies watch ( am I cynical?? )

That just looks like a word omelette to me. Not a clue. Sorry

All good just channeling Granpa Simpson 🙂

Because like me you identify “ Lip service “ to the community 😂

In my mind I don’t really care about if it has an initiative to support, to me that’s just the cherry on top of the Sundae if I like the watch. However I see this more as a cynical marketing exercise much like Tesla with it’s “environmental attitude”, sure maybe you do produce less emissions as an individual but ultimately you’re buying a brand, a fashion accessory if you will, not actually “saving the world” or “saving the ocean”. Yeah Seiko looking at you, Oris is doing it better with the upcycle. It’s cool that these initiatives exist don’t get me wrong and this is ultimately good marketing for them, but there’s better ways to support these guys.

Actions speak louder than words.

While i choose the dial and case first and foremost, having conservation collabs do help in my decision making. If nothing else, it is an added bonus to the watch purchase knowing that in some little way you contributed to nature conservation while getting a watch out of it. I myself have a bunch of these collaboration watches but mainly because i was attracted to their dials. 😊

If i dont get too lazy, i might do a post on all my nature collaboration pieces in one shot😄

I've been an eco warrior all my life - veggie since 1982, chose not to breed, don't drive....

Hate all this greenwashing bullshit!!

It's as sincere as a teenage vegan....🤣