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Why do they not make these with screw down crowns? ๐Ÿ˜ก

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Itโ€™s mostly cause of cost and maintenance reasons.

Then again, IWC makes aviator watches and Iโ€™m guessing pilots would hate having the fiddle with unscrewing the crown mid-flight, especially if they had gloves on.

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SpecKTator

Itโ€™s mostly cause of cost and maintenance reasons.

Then again, IWC makes aviator watches and Iโ€™m guessing pilots would hate having the fiddle with unscrewing the crown mid-flight, especially if they had gloves on.

I donโ€™t know if I agree with cutting costs at these caliber and price point of watches but I do agree with pilots not wanting to fiddle with the crown. But the Longines Zulu has a screw downโ€ฆ the Rolex Airking has a screw downโ€ฆ just makes me wonderโ€ฆI just canโ€™t deal with a watch without a screw down no matter how nice the watch is.. just one of those pet peeves for meโ€ฆ similarly I need a date on all my watches ๐Ÿ˜…

What if the pilot needs to eject and parachute down to the ocean? GG? ๐Ÿคฃ

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Well, to be fair, its an aviation style piece. If you're worrying about getting a pilots watch wet, you've got bigger problems than what's on your wrist & I certainly won't be flying with you. ๐Ÿคฃ

JK But honestly, I couldn't say why. My ProPilot isn't far off in style, nor is the crown particularly big but yet its threaded. Maybe its a cost related?

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Rich_P

Well, to be fair, its an aviation style piece. If you're worrying about getting a pilots watch wet, you've got bigger problems than what's on your wrist & I certainly won't be flying with you. ๐Ÿคฃ

JK But honestly, I couldn't say why. My ProPilot isn't far off in style, nor is the crown particularly big but yet its threaded. Maybe its a cost related?

๐Ÿคฃno matter what it is you should never get on a plane with me if Iโ€™m flying it lol.

I just donโ€™t feel itโ€™s a cost thing at these price point of watches. I can understand cutting cost in Seiko 5โ€™s but not on these IWCโ€™s. I donโ€™t know. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป

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TheGreatPetah

I donโ€™t know if I agree with cutting costs at these caliber and price point of watches but I do agree with pilots not wanting to fiddle with the crown. But the Longines Zulu has a screw downโ€ฆ the Rolex Airking has a screw downโ€ฆ just makes me wonderโ€ฆI just canโ€™t deal with a watch without a screw down no matter how nice the watch is.. just one of those pet peeves for meโ€ฆ similarly I need a date on all my watches ๐Ÿ˜…

What if the pilot needs to eject and parachute down to the ocean? GG? ๐Ÿคฃ

Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโ€™t speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.

Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโ€™s lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโ€™m indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?

If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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SpecKTator

Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโ€™t speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.

Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโ€™s lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโ€™m indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?

If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐Ÿ˜‚

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Iโ€™m pretty sure most of us on this forum wonโ€™t be diving down to 500m in the Atlantic anytime soon or flying a F35 through Russia airspace. At least I wonโ€™t be lol. Therefore, I need my watches to be as practical as possible and the least would be a date when Iโ€™m filling out forms at the office ๐Ÿคฃ

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Because it doesn't need a screw down crown.

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TheGreatPetah

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Iโ€™m pretty sure most of us on this forum wonโ€™t be diving down to 500m in the Atlantic anytime soon or flying a F35 through Russia airspace. At least I wonโ€™t be lol. Therefore, I need my watches to be as practical as possible and the least would be a date when Iโ€™m filling out forms at the office ๐Ÿคฃ

Given recent events, no one should even think about diving any deeper than 100m. If the water pressure doesnโ€™t get you the orcas will.

I canโ€™t talk about the F-35, Iโ€™d choose the F-22 or B-21.

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foghorn

Because it doesn't need a screw down crown.

Out of all the answers/suggestions I got so far I will go with yours. Straight to the point.

Itโ€™s like none of us really needs a watch here when we all have our phones reading these posts where there is the most precise time at the top left corner of the phone screen ๐Ÿคฃlike who cares if the watch is accurate or not right? Lol

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SpecKTator

Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโ€™t speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.

Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโ€™s lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโ€™m indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?

If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Wait a second..Letโ€™s rewind hereโ€ฆSo you are telling me that if you had to eject out of a plane and the first thing that comes to your mind is not thinking of how to protect your IWC from the water? I thought we were all watch enthusiasts here on this forum! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I agree and I understand the logic behind it. However, watches these days are not really made for the true original purpose but rather for guys like us here who wears our 300m WR watches to wash our cars on our driveways or our COSC certified ones just to ensure we arrive to the movies on time. I just feel they could add a little bit of extra security against the elements thatโ€™s all.

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Probably because they're meant to be on the air, not under the water ๐Ÿ˜‚

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TheGreatPetah

Wait a second..Letโ€™s rewind hereโ€ฆSo you are telling me that if you had to eject out of a plane and the first thing that comes to your mind is not thinking of how to protect your IWC from the water? I thought we were all watch enthusiasts here on this forum! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

First thing Iโ€™d be worried about is if the canopy ejected. Talk to me Goose, talk to meโ€ฆ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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SpecKTator

First thing Iโ€™d be worried about is if the canopy ejected. Talk to me Goose, talk to meโ€ฆ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Donโ€™t think. Just do. Iโ€™d strap the parachute around my watch before myself if I had to๐Ÿคฃ

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heizenberg

Probably because they're meant to be on the air, not under the water ๐Ÿ˜‚

I know I know ๐Ÿคฃ and realistically, Iโ€™ve taken my Casio Vintage swimming completely forgetting it was just WR rated and it was still fine. But it was also just $50 lol. I guess i just prefer that extra screw in for the peace of mind when we go and spend thousands on a frigging watch lol ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ˜‚

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PilotBill

The lack of a screw down crown allows the air in the case to equalize with the outside air at higher altitudes. If the crown locked the air inside then the watch would explode and blow your hand off when you got above a few thousand feet. When I fly I unscrew my diver watch crowns for just that reason. It's a safety feature of pilot watches that you typically pay extra for.

So why did Rolex make the Air king with a twin lock crown system? ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป

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Nate_Designer

I was just about to write the same thing. I wonder why itโ€™s on the smaller size, but not the larger ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚

Seconded. My IWC Spitfire Chrono and Mark XX both have screw down crowns.

I wonder if it has to do with the bronze case.

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Iwc mark xviii is very similar aesthetic if u like that sort of watch and has screw down crown

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I'm learning to have more faith in modern push-pull crowns to do their job well enough: provide modest WR and stay the hell put when pushed in. However, I have a lot of sympathy with 'just give me the screw crown when I pay the big money' and IWC largely charge the big money for relatively modest specs - when that's the case, the devil really is in the details. I can't recall a single watch enthusiast who has ever said "nice watch, just wish it had a push pull crown..."

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I'd say tradition. Pilots watches never needed screw down crowns back in the day. And although some are now made with them, they're still not a style of watch that's "meant" to go bush with you.

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I'd love all my watches to have screw down crowns and a minimum 100m, but "beware the pilot wearing a dive watch".... excellent choice there my friend....๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟโŒš๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟโŒš

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Buy Fortis if you want the overbuilt tool flieger watches. Like other posters said, it doesn't need more than 50m of WR so they didn't bother.

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Actually many push/pull crown watches can secure up to 200 meters + lower maintenance

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The screw down crown isn't adding WR to my understanding ๐Ÿค” It's there to ensure that the crown stays in, because a "open" crown is not holding the water out.

Isn't this watch 6bars? I don't see the need for a screw down crown. They have added extra anti-magnetism and protection against pressure drops which makes sense. And it has enough WR for what ever you will do. If you are gonna dive then get a diver ๐Ÿ˜Š

Screw down crowns also adds wear and tear compared to push pull. With the threads and all.

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They probably don't because in effect a screw down crown is more likely to break and makes it more likely for water to get in.

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Wowโ€ฆ. I guess I was misinformed by the salesperson from this storeโ€ฆ๐Ÿ™ˆ I just checked IWCโ€™s website and it does have a screw down๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿคฃ

He told me there isnโ€™t. And I couldnโ€™t really tell because they had this plastic film that wraps around the watch case (not sure if you can see it in the pic) prettt much as soon as he told me there isnโ€™t a screw down crown I lost interest and moved on so didnโ€™t bother to do more researchโ€ฆโ€ฆ wowโ€ฆ Iโ€™m actually quite surprised the salesperson would give me false infoโ€ฆ just wow

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Just confirmed on the IwC website and it does have a screw down ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜… I was mislead by the salespersonโ€ฆ the display watch had a plastic film that wraps around the watch so I couldnโ€™t test this at the store. As soon as he told me there isnโ€™t one I lost interest and moved on and didnโ€™t bother to research furtherโ€ฆ Wowโ€ฆ I am in shock that I was misleadโ€ฆ but in their defence the store carries multiple brandsโ€ฆ but stillโ€ฆ. Just wow

So I guess the answer to my post should simply be โ€œ yes it doesโ€ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Thank you @DeepCmonkey for enlightening me!!!

Hey but at least I did spark quite a few hilarious conversations from this! ๐Ÿคฃ

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It's a poer design. At that pricepoint (anything over $200.00) can and should have a screw down crown. Look at Seiko and Casio for examples. I wonder why Hamilton doesn't put a screw down crown on every piece

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My mark xviii has a screw down crown. That canโ€™t be right!

Some may say a Pilotโ€™s swatch doesnโ€™t need a screw down crown, but I think it should have it cause when you slap a rubber strap on it and you can do anything with it.

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cyclopseye

My mark xviii has a screw down crown. That canโ€™t be right!

Some may say a Pilotโ€™s swatch doesnโ€™t need a screw down crown, but I think it should have it cause when you slap a rubber strap on it and you can do anything with it.

You are right. We found out that the salesperson gave me wrong intel ๐Ÿ™ˆ and because they had this wrapper that wrapped the entire case I couldnโ€™t touch the crown to play around with it. Anyhow, although I love the spitfires, Iโ€™m currently patiently waiting on an Air King. I will pontentially go back to the spitfires in the future as I absolutely love that lineup from IWC!