Itโs mostly cause of cost and maintenance reasons.
Then again, IWC makes aviator watches and Iโm guessing pilots would hate having the fiddle with unscrewing the crown mid-flight, especially if they had gloves on.
Itโs mostly cause of cost and maintenance reasons.
Then again, IWC makes aviator watches and Iโm guessing pilots would hate having the fiddle with unscrewing the crown mid-flight, especially if they had gloves on.
I donโt know if I agree with cutting costs at these caliber and price point of watches but I do agree with pilots not wanting to fiddle with the crown. But the Longines Zulu has a screw downโฆ the Rolex Airking has a screw downโฆ just makes me wonderโฆI just canโt deal with a watch without a screw down no matter how nice the watch is.. just one of those pet peeves for meโฆ similarly I need a date on all my watches ๐
What if the pilot needs to eject and parachute down to the ocean? GG? ๐คฃ
Well, to be fair, its an aviation style piece. If you're worrying about getting a pilots watch wet, you've got bigger problems than what's on your wrist & I certainly won't be flying with you. ๐คฃ
JK But honestly, I couldn't say why. My ProPilot isn't far off in style, nor is the crown particularly big but yet its threaded. Maybe its a cost related?
Well, to be fair, its an aviation style piece. If you're worrying about getting a pilots watch wet, you've got bigger problems than what's on your wrist & I certainly won't be flying with you. ๐คฃ
JK But honestly, I couldn't say why. My ProPilot isn't far off in style, nor is the crown particularly big but yet its threaded. Maybe its a cost related?
๐คฃno matter what it is you should never get on a plane with me if Iโm flying it lol.
I just donโt feel itโs a cost thing at these price point of watches. I can understand cutting cost in Seiko 5โs but not on these IWCโs. I donโt know. ๐คท๐ป
I donโt know if I agree with cutting costs at these caliber and price point of watches but I do agree with pilots not wanting to fiddle with the crown. But the Longines Zulu has a screw downโฆ the Rolex Airking has a screw downโฆ just makes me wonderโฆI just canโt deal with a watch without a screw down no matter how nice the watch is.. just one of those pet peeves for meโฆ similarly I need a date on all my watches ๐
What if the pilot needs to eject and parachute down to the ocean? GG? ๐คฃ
Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโt speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.
Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโs lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโm indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?
If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐
Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโt speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.
Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโs lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโm indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?
If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐
๐คฃ๐คฃ Iโm pretty sure most of us on this forum wonโt be diving down to 500m in the Atlantic anytime soon or flying a F35 through Russia airspace. At least I wonโt be lol. Therefore, I need my watches to be as practical as possible and the least would be a date when Iโm filling out forms at the office ๐คฃ
๐คฃ๐คฃ Iโm pretty sure most of us on this forum wonโt be diving down to 500m in the Atlantic anytime soon or flying a F35 through Russia airspace. At least I wonโt be lol. Therefore, I need my watches to be as practical as possible and the least would be a date when Iโm filling out forms at the office ๐คฃ
Given recent events, no one should even think about diving any deeper than 100m. If the water pressure doesnโt get you the orcas will.
I canโt talk about the F-35, Iโd choose the F-22 or B-21.
Out of all the answers/suggestions I got so far I will go with yours. Straight to the point.
Itโs like none of us really needs a watch here when we all have our phones reading these posts where there is the most precise time at the top left corner of the phone screen ๐คฃlike who cares if the watch is accurate or not right? Lol
Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโt speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.
Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโs lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโm indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?
If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐
Wait a second..Letโs rewind hereโฆSo you are telling me that if you had to eject out of a plane and the first thing that comes to your mind is not thinking of how to protect your IWC from the water? I thought we were all watch enthusiasts here on this forum! ๐คฃ๐
I agree and I understand the logic behind it. However, watches these days are not really made for the true original purpose but rather for guys like us here who wears our 300m WR watches to wash our cars on our driveways or our COSC certified ones just to ensure we arrive to the movies on time. I just feel they could add a little bit of extra security against the elements thatโs all.
Wait a second..Letโs rewind hereโฆSo you are telling me that if you had to eject out of a plane and the first thing that comes to your mind is not thinking of how to protect your IWC from the water? I thought we were all watch enthusiasts here on this forum! ๐คฃ๐
First thing Iโd be worried about is if the canopy ejected. Talk to me Goose, talk to meโฆ๐ญ
Probably because they're meant to be on the air, not under the water ๐
I know I know ๐คฃ and realistically, Iโve taken my Casio Vintage swimming completely forgetting it was just WR rated and it was still fine. But it was also just $50 lol. I guess i just prefer that extra screw in for the peace of mind when we go and spend thousands on a frigging watch lol ๐๐
The lack of a screw down crown allows the air in the case to equalize with the outside air at higher altitudes. If the crown locked the air inside then the watch would explode and blow your hand off when you got above a few thousand feet. When I fly I unscrew my diver watch crowns for just that reason. It's a safety feature of pilot watches that you typically pay extra for.
So why did Rolex make the Air king with a twin lock crown system? ๐คท๐ป
I'm learning to have more faith in modern push-pull crowns to do their job well enough: provide modest WR and stay the hell put when pushed in. However, I have a lot of sympathy with 'just give me the screw crown when I pay the big money' and IWC largely charge the big money for relatively modest specs - when that's the case, the devil really is in the details. I can't recall a single watch enthusiast who has ever said "nice watch, just wish it had a push pull crown..."
I'd say tradition. Pilots watches never needed screw down crowns back in the day. And although some are now made with them, they're still not a style of watch that's "meant" to go bush with you.
I'd love all my watches to have screw down crowns and a minimum 100m, but "beware the pilot wearing a dive watch".... excellent choice there my friend....๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟโ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟโ
The screw down crown isn't adding WR to my understanding ๐ค It's there to ensure that the crown stays in, because a "open" crown is not holding the water out.
Isn't this watch 6bars? I don't see the need for a screw down crown. They have added extra anti-magnetism and protection against pressure drops which makes sense. And it has enough WR for what ever you will do. If you are gonna dive then get a diver ๐
Screw down crowns also adds wear and tear compared to push pull. With the threads and all.
Wowโฆ. I guess I was misinformed by the salesperson from this storeโฆ๐ I just checked IWCโs website and it does have a screw down๐๐คฃ
He told me there isnโt. And I couldnโt really tell because they had this plastic film that wraps around the watch case (not sure if you can see it in the pic) prettt much as soon as he told me there isnโt a screw down crown I lost interest and moved on so didnโt bother to do more researchโฆโฆ wowโฆ Iโm actually quite surprised the salesperson would give me false infoโฆ just wow
Just confirmed on the IwC website and it does have a screw down ๐๐คฃ๐ I was mislead by the salespersonโฆ the display watch had a plastic film that wraps around the watch so I couldnโt test this at the store. As soon as he told me there isnโt one I lost interest and moved on and didnโt bother to research furtherโฆ Wowโฆ I am in shock that I was misleadโฆ but in their defence the store carries multiple brandsโฆ but stillโฆ. Just wow
So I guess the answer to my post should simply be โ yes it doesโ ๐
It's a poer design. At that pricepoint (anything over $200.00) can and should have a screw down crown. Look at Seiko and Casio for examples. I wonder why Hamilton doesn't put a screw down crown on every piece
My mark xviii has a screw down crown. That canโt be right!
Some may say a Pilotโs swatch doesnโt need a screw down crown, but I think it should have it cause when you slap a rubber strap on it and you can do anything with it.
My mark xviii has a screw down crown. That canโt be right!
Some may say a Pilotโs swatch doesnโt need a screw down crown, but I think it should have it cause when you slap a rubber strap on it and you can do anything with it.
You are right. We found out that the salesperson gave me wrong intel ๐ and because they had this wrapper that wrapped the entire case I couldnโt touch the crown to play around with it. Anyhow, although I love the spitfires, Iโm currently patiently waiting on an Air King. I will pontentially go back to the spitfires in the future as I absolutely love that lineup from IWC!
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Itโs mostly cause of cost and maintenance reasons.
Then again, IWC makes aviator watches and Iโm guessing pilots would hate having the fiddle with unscrewing the crown mid-flight, especially if they had gloves on.
Itโs mostly cause of cost and maintenance reasons.
Then again, IWC makes aviator watches and Iโm guessing pilots would hate having the fiddle with unscrewing the crown mid-flight, especially if they had gloves on.
I donโt know if I agree with cutting costs at these caliber and price point of watches but I do agree with pilots not wanting to fiddle with the crown. But the Longines Zulu has a screw downโฆ the Rolex Airking has a screw downโฆ just makes me wonderโฆI just canโt deal with a watch without a screw down no matter how nice the watch is.. just one of those pet peeves for meโฆ similarly I need a date on all my watches ๐
What if the pilot needs to eject and parachute down to the ocean? GG? ๐คฃ
Well, to be fair, its an aviation style piece. If you're worrying about getting a pilots watch wet, you've got bigger problems than what's on your wrist & I certainly won't be flying with you. ๐คฃ
JK But honestly, I couldn't say why. My ProPilot isn't far off in style, nor is the crown particularly big but yet its threaded. Maybe its a cost related?
Well, to be fair, its an aviation style piece. If you're worrying about getting a pilots watch wet, you've got bigger problems than what's on your wrist & I certainly won't be flying with you. ๐คฃ
JK But honestly, I couldn't say why. My ProPilot isn't far off in style, nor is the crown particularly big but yet its threaded. Maybe its a cost related?
๐คฃno matter what it is you should never get on a plane with me if Iโm flying it lol.
I just donโt feel itโs a cost thing at these price point of watches. I can understand cutting cost in Seiko 5โs but not on these IWCโs. I donโt know. ๐คท๐ป
I donโt know if I agree with cutting costs at these caliber and price point of watches but I do agree with pilots not wanting to fiddle with the crown. But the Longines Zulu has a screw downโฆ the Rolex Airking has a screw downโฆ just makes me wonderโฆI just canโt deal with a watch without a screw down no matter how nice the watch is.. just one of those pet peeves for meโฆ similarly I need a date on all my watches ๐
What if the pilot needs to eject and parachute down to the ocean? GG? ๐คฃ
Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโt speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.
Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโs lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโm indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?
If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐
Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโt speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.
Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโs lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโm indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?
If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐
๐คฃ๐คฃ Iโm pretty sure most of us on this forum wonโt be diving down to 500m in the Atlantic anytime soon or flying a F35 through Russia airspace. At least I wonโt be lol. Therefore, I need my watches to be as practical as possible and the least would be a date when Iโm filling out forms at the office ๐คฃ
Because it doesn't need a screw down crown.
๐คฃ๐คฃ Iโm pretty sure most of us on this forum wonโt be diving down to 500m in the Atlantic anytime soon or flying a F35 through Russia airspace. At least I wonโt be lol. Therefore, I need my watches to be as practical as possible and the least would be a date when Iโm filling out forms at the office ๐คฃ
Given recent events, no one should even think about diving any deeper than 100m. If the water pressure doesnโt get you the orcas will.
I canโt talk about the F-35, Iโd choose the F-22 or B-21.
Because it doesn't need a screw down crown.
Out of all the answers/suggestions I got so far I will go with yours. Straight to the point.
Itโs like none of us really needs a watch here when we all have our phones reading these posts where there is the most precise time at the top left corner of the phone screen ๐คฃlike who cares if the watch is accurate or not right? Lol
Zulu is a GMT for a traveler, not necessarily the pilot. Canโt speak for the Rolex, they do their own shite.
Funny that you need a watch with a date cause thereโs lot of folks on WC who hate seeing a date. Iโm indifferent, just depends on the watch. Why a day/date on a diver Seiko?
If the pilot has to eject, a screw down crown on his IWC is the least of his worries. ๐
Wait a second..Letโs rewind hereโฆSo you are telling me that if you had to eject out of a plane and the first thing that comes to your mind is not thinking of how to protect your IWC from the water? I thought we were all watch enthusiasts here on this forum! ๐คฃ๐
I agree and I understand the logic behind it. However, watches these days are not really made for the true original purpose but rather for guys like us here who wears our 300m WR watches to wash our cars on our driveways or our COSC certified ones just to ensure we arrive to the movies on time. I just feel they could add a little bit of extra security against the elements thatโs all.
Probably because they're meant to be on the air, not under the water ๐
Wait a second..Letโs rewind hereโฆSo you are telling me that if you had to eject out of a plane and the first thing that comes to your mind is not thinking of how to protect your IWC from the water? I thought we were all watch enthusiasts here on this forum! ๐คฃ๐
First thing Iโd be worried about is if the canopy ejected. Talk to me Goose, talk to meโฆ๐ญ
First thing Iโd be worried about is if the canopy ejected. Talk to me Goose, talk to meโฆ๐ญ
Donโt think. Just do. Iโd strap the parachute around my watch before myself if I had to๐คฃ
Probably because they're meant to be on the air, not under the water ๐
I know I know ๐คฃ and realistically, Iโve taken my Casio Vintage swimming completely forgetting it was just WR rated and it was still fine. But it was also just $50 lol. I guess i just prefer that extra screw in for the peace of mind when we go and spend thousands on a frigging watch lol ๐๐
The lack of a screw down crown allows the air in the case to equalize with the outside air at higher altitudes. If the crown locked the air inside then the watch would explode and blow your hand off when you got above a few thousand feet. When I fly I unscrew my diver watch crowns for just that reason. It's a safety feature of pilot watches that you typically pay extra for.
So why did Rolex make the Air king with a twin lock crown system? ๐คท๐ป
I was just about to write the same thing. I wonder why itโs on the smaller size, but not the larger ๐คทโโ
Seconded. My IWC Spitfire Chrono and Mark XX both have screw down crowns.
I wonder if it has to do with the bronze case.
Iwc mark xviii is very similar aesthetic if u like that sort of watch and has screw down crown
I'm learning to have more faith in modern push-pull crowns to do their job well enough: provide modest WR and stay the hell put when pushed in. However, I have a lot of sympathy with 'just give me the screw crown when I pay the big money' and IWC largely charge the big money for relatively modest specs - when that's the case, the devil really is in the details. I can't recall a single watch enthusiast who has ever said "nice watch, just wish it had a push pull crown..."
I'd say tradition. Pilots watches never needed screw down crowns back in the day. And although some are now made with them, they're still not a style of watch that's "meant" to go bush with you.
I'd love all my watches to have screw down crowns and a minimum 100m, but "beware the pilot wearing a dive watch".... excellent choice there my friend....๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟโ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟโ
Buy Fortis if you want the overbuilt tool flieger watches. Like other posters said, it doesn't need more than 50m of WR so they didn't bother.
Actually many push/pull crown watches can secure up to 200 meters + lower maintenance
The screw down crown isn't adding WR to my understanding ๐ค It's there to ensure that the crown stays in, because a "open" crown is not holding the water out.
Isn't this watch 6bars? I don't see the need for a screw down crown. They have added extra anti-magnetism and protection against pressure drops which makes sense. And it has enough WR for what ever you will do. If you are gonna dive then get a diver ๐
Screw down crowns also adds wear and tear compared to push pull. With the threads and all.
They probably don't because in effect a screw down crown is more likely to break and makes it more likely for water to get in.
Wowโฆ. I guess I was misinformed by the salesperson from this storeโฆ๐ I just checked IWCโs website and it does have a screw down๐๐คฃ
He told me there isnโt. And I couldnโt really tell because they had this plastic film that wraps around the watch case (not sure if you can see it in the pic) prettt much as soon as he told me there isnโt a screw down crown I lost interest and moved on so didnโt bother to do more researchโฆโฆ wowโฆ Iโm actually quite surprised the salesperson would give me false infoโฆ just wow
Just confirmed on the IwC website and it does have a screw down ๐๐คฃ๐ I was mislead by the salespersonโฆ the display watch had a plastic film that wraps around the watch so I couldnโt test this at the store. As soon as he told me there isnโt one I lost interest and moved on and didnโt bother to research furtherโฆ Wowโฆ I am in shock that I was misleadโฆ but in their defence the store carries multiple brandsโฆ but stillโฆ. Just wow
So I guess the answer to my post should simply be โ yes it doesโ ๐
Thank you @DeepCmonkey for enlightening me!!!
Hey but at least I did spark quite a few hilarious conversations from this! ๐คฃ
It's a poer design. At that pricepoint (anything over $200.00) can and should have a screw down crown. Look at Seiko and Casio for examples. I wonder why Hamilton doesn't put a screw down crown on every piece
My mark xviii has a screw down crown. That canโt be right!
Some may say a Pilotโs swatch doesnโt need a screw down crown, but I think it should have it cause when you slap a rubber strap on it and you can do anything with it.
My mark xviii has a screw down crown. That canโt be right!
Some may say a Pilotโs swatch doesnโt need a screw down crown, but I think it should have it cause when you slap a rubber strap on it and you can do anything with it.
You are right. We found out that the salesperson gave me wrong intel ๐ and because they had this wrapper that wrapped the entire case I couldnโt touch the crown to play around with it. Anyhow, although I love the spitfires, Iโm currently patiently waiting on an Air King. I will pontentially go back to the spitfires in the future as I absolutely love that lineup from IWC!