What do you think about king seiko?

Beautiful, particularly love that it's no date. Bit pricey for the movement imho, but I'll certainly be tempted when they're available cheaper on the used market. Just classy 😍

Too pricy. Get a vintage. Much cheaper and besides sapphire, vintage KS movements are equal if not better than modern stock seikos (not GS). I had a vintage KS that ran consistently at - 10s. Definitely not worth 1700 usd. For that money save a bit more and get an used GS.

Yeah, I'm with @Inkitatus and @charper_watches in this. Buy them second hand or go vintage. For now buying one with the 6R movement isn't worth $1.7k.

Edit: corrected the $7k gaffe.

If you can afford it comfortably and the specs, design, and hardware are good enough for your standards then it is most definitely worth it. Everyone is overpaying for their watch in some way. "Overpriced" is relative.

Yes there are other watches with similar specs for significantly lower prices. If that's enough to deter you from buying a KS, then there's nothing wrong with that.

If your heart is set on a KS, then I personally think no other watch will do, because the KS has it's own charm in that unique Seiko way that can't be replicated (at least not to me).

You can look at this watch for it's objective qualities and then consider your own subjective feelings; somewhere in the middle you will find your version of "the truth", and if that truth is leaning towards a positive light then go for it.

Here are my thoughts on it:

https://youtu.be/6RQREJYia2c?si=RuSZODFFHXHmA2Hk

As long as it’s the model with the 4HZ movement, it’s a great watch. The variants with the 6R31s are trash. I wouldn’t go anywhere near 6R31s and 35s

I do agree with the other posters that used for most watches is worth your consideration. The KS is a great watch. If you’re set on new, I’ve been quoted US$1550 for the model you posted. It’s probably available at Gnomon online for a reduced price (before shipping and customs).

I suggest checking out a tier above before you pull the trigger. With an MSRP of $2000 (you should pay $1800 new), the King Seiko Charcoal Suit (SPB387J1) gets a 6R55, lumed hands and an upgraded bracelet.

The dial, fit and finish are fantastic. There are blue and green models too.

Like the watch bracelets amazing,but I'd still go pre owned or vintage 👌

A watch’s worth goes beyond the movement. I think this one makes up for its regular old 6R with great finishing, an unusually nice bracelet for Seiko, a wild crystal and some hype. The movement is fine if you ask me. I would prefer 4Hz but it’s a solid unit with nice crown feel. I love the brown turtle shell dial variant but I’m afraid the watch is too small for my taste. Buy one.

I use to think the modern ones are over priced due to the movement used…until I saw one in person. The finishing really is a step above Seiko.

Yes you get a similar vibe from vintage but they won’t be as reliable and will be much more expensive to service. Also, no bracelet.

Whether it's worth the money is, of course, completely relative and personal, but if you compare this to what Swatch is charging for their Longines Flagship and Master watches (dress watches on bracelet with similar 3Hz/70hr movements), the King Seiko is very well priced in comparison, especially considering the finer case, bracelet, and dial finishing of the KS and, IMO, the more interesting design. Also, don't let the MSRP of the King Seiko fool you: You can easily pick one up from an AD at 20% off or more (try your local shop or call Jonny at Exquisite Timepieces and see what he’ll do). You can also easily grab one mint, pre-owned on eBay or Chrono24 for under a grand.

It’s an absolutely gorgeous watch in person—the proportions, the finishing, the comfort, and the overall design are all spectacularly executed and the whole package is unique. The bracelet is the best I’ve experienced from Seiko as well.

People complain about the movement but the fact is that it’s a solid and reliable timekeeper that can be serviced anywhere. Give any watchmaker $20 and 15 minutes and you can get it regulated to run within COSC (if that matters to you).

A lot of folks are advising to get a vintage KS and while I think there are many great ones out there, you won’t find this design with this bracelet and this dial in the back catalog (though you may find others that you love). You also won’t find one with a warranty and 100m water resistance. I own some vintage pieces and I love them more than most of what I’ve bought new, but they’re fragile and require a degree of commitment and patience that not everyone is up for. I also find that I wear vintage pieces less often as a result of not wanting to risk damaging them.

I would also recommend vintage KS or GS if you’re looking for cheaper. I went for KS because it’s a little cheaper, I liked the designs better, and they are kind of a niche collector thing which I liked. Make sure you do your research though to find the specific reference for you, as they are all different. Can be intimidating at first but it’s really not that difficult to learn over time once you watch enough videos and read all the articles 😉. Scored mine on buyee.jp

As someone who went the vintage route, these are great points. Would definitely go with the reissue if I was worried about any of those things.

When this came out, i was excited. I like the idea of a higher end not quite grand seiko watch. Then I saw the shape of the lugs and lost interest. Something about their bulky looking chamfers. Everything else is awesome

I went vintage KS and came out $500 poorer with a watch that had a rusty movement. With every vintage watch purchase, your are tossing a coin

Fair enough. Sorry to hear it didn’t work out for you. I’ve had a good experience so far with mine.

I think the KS is a rare example of a reissue which is pretty faithful to the original.

That’s unusual. The 35mm Longines Heritage’s Conquest is another example. It has an ETA 2824-2, which is bombproof and totally generic. But you’re not buying it for the movement, you’re buying it for the spectacular dial, the period-correct case and the acrylic crystal. And to avoid the parts/servicing nightmare that is vintage Longines (sadly).

I imagine similar things are true for the KS. I don’t understand the quibbling about movement specs for a reissued which is all about aesthetics and which will be technically superior to a vintage example even it only had a 4R36.

Wayyy overpriced. Just go vintage. Same enjoyment, half the price

Nice watch but terrible price. If seiko want to ask that price they need to show confidence in their movement, what are the tolerances they state for time keeping for that movement?

I picked up this very model in a sale about 5 weeks ago for a shade over 1k GBP so there are deals to be had without going second hand. I consider this a bargain if you can get it at a decent discount. I did a review too so you can see that via my profile if you want some hands-on details.

That is exactly what am I thinking. I have a sense that most people judge this watch based on the movement only, without having experienced it in person… I bought the cherry dial and I trully believe that yes, the movement belongs to a 700€ watch but the finishing beats tones of watches between 3000-4000€… hence the 1800 final price.

You couldn’t have been more right…