Is this the perfect TUDOR?
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Captain Crunch
Co-founder of WatchCrunch; Inventor of the Zero Pass strap.
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I have to agree. Even on my 6 1/2 inch wrist, I was shocked it fit and looked so good!
Tried it on last week and I really loved the overall look. The bezel just pops and the burgundy has that slight metal look to it because of the aluminum. It's just right. Still, it is the kind of watch I would love to own but under 40mm!
If the MN Sub represents vintage Tudor, then this colourway is representative of modern Tudor imo. I still remember the world going mad when the Black Bays were first released after Tudor’s little hiatus and even though they were too big for me personally, I couldn’t wait to see where this line would go
I have to agree. Even on my 6 1/2 inch wrist, I was shocked it fit and looked so good!
Looks great!
Tried it on last week and I really loved the overall look. The bezel just pops and the burgundy has that slight metal look to it because of the aluminum. It's just right. Still, it is the kind of watch I would love to own but under 40mm!
Yeah that's hot 🥵
A bit to big for me, the Pelegos 39 is my perfect Tudor
I can’t wait to try one of these on
It’s a great looking watch, for sure. A few thoughts:
At 41mm, if you find the watch on the edge of wearable, I wonder if the rubber strap (or swapping it onto a NATO) might be a better option for you than the standard bracelet or the jubilee? I’ve found bracelets visually bulk up a watch, while rubber, leather, and fabric do the opposite. You unfortunately don’t avoid the sharp Tudor shield though.
I think with the red bezel, polished steel/rhodium-plated dial furniture might work better for this watch, to put more of the focus on the bezel.
After seeing the Black Bay Bronze’s in person, I’d like Tudor to spread the 3-6-9 indices to the rest of the line. I think a BBB with those numerals + steel/rhodium-plated bits would be killer.
I've got one of the older models, with the oyster style bracelet.
It's pretty much my favorite watch, it definitely gets the most wrist time.
The proportions never really bothered me, but I can see how it would be a little bulky for some tastes.
Great video. Will need to see in person. Still in love with my 58s.
It’s a great looking watch, for sure. A few thoughts:
At 41mm, if you find the watch on the edge of wearable, I wonder if the rubber strap (or swapping it onto a NATO) might be a better option for you than the standard bracelet or the jubilee? I’ve found bracelets visually bulk up a watch, while rubber, leather, and fabric do the opposite. You unfortunately don’t avoid the sharp Tudor shield though.
I think with the red bezel, polished steel/rhodium-plated dial furniture might work better for this watch, to put more of the focus on the bezel.
After seeing the Black Bay Bronze’s in person, I’d like Tudor to spread the 3-6-9 indices to the rest of the line. I think a BBB with those numerals + steel/rhodium-plated bits would be killer.
Yes, a Nato would be nice, but it's 21mm lug width 🤦♂️
I've got one of the older models, with the oyster style bracelet.
It's pretty much my favorite watch, it definitely gets the most wrist time.
The proportions never really bothered me, but I can see how it would be a little bulky for some tastes.
Yeah it started out a great recipe, they are just refining it now
Great video. Will need to see in person. Still in love with my 58s.
It's hard to beat the 58 👌
I’m still thinking bout @Max comment regarding the Kenessi movements getting swapped out instead of serviced when sent in for repair. That blows my mind….and it’s massively disappointing to see them just chuck it in the garbage instead of engineering it to last. Is it just me is does anybody else find this troubling?
A bit to big for me, the Pelegos 39 is my perfect Tudor
The 54 is 37mm. My sweet spot
This is my 58...I now wish it was a 54 but with taxes I paid over 4k for it so...I'll live with it....
I’m still thinking bout @Max comment regarding the Kenessi movements getting swapped out instead of serviced when sent in for repair. That blows my mind….and it’s massively disappointing to see them just chuck it in the garbage instead of engineering it to last. Is it just me is does anybody else find this troubling?
It’s disappointing for sure. From what I understand, though, is it’s pretty common. I don’t think it’s necessarily a question of engineering robustness, but of cost.
When a movement costs under $200 to make (and testing is part of the manufacturing process), the cost of the movement + labor, a swap is likely cheaper to replace than the cost of disassembly, parts swapping, and reassembly, and testing. I’d bet most customers would rather get their watch back faster with a swap than however long it’d take with a full service/repair.
The real engineering question to me is whether Kenissi designed their movements to be easy to be serviced, by an independent watchmaker, and if parts are available to order. I’d like the option to be able to get my watch fixed by someone local, even if I only send my watches to manufacturer's to service, ever since I had a bad experience with an independent local watchmaker (he kept it for over and 4 months wrecked the chrono module when reassembling, and this was a guy with good reviews).
Just waiting for the blue bezel variant... (and winning the lottery). The red was a too much for me (same with the gilt on the black version).
I dig the original with the eta movement and smiley face..... seriously collectable
Good video. I agree with all your points. I received my watch 3 weeks ago and wore it only once because the jubilee makes the watch too pretty. I have owned the 2012 black bay 41 in burgundy and own the BB58. I have to say this is my favorite one so far. 🔥
It’s disappointing for sure. From what I understand, though, is it’s pretty common. I don’t think it’s necessarily a question of engineering robustness, but of cost.
When a movement costs under $200 to make (and testing is part of the manufacturing process), the cost of the movement + labor, a swap is likely cheaper to replace than the cost of disassembly, parts swapping, and reassembly, and testing. I’d bet most customers would rather get their watch back faster with a swap than however long it’d take with a full service/repair.
The real engineering question to me is whether Kenissi designed their movements to be easy to be serviced, by an independent watchmaker, and if parts are available to order. I’d like the option to be able to get my watch fixed by someone local, even if I only send my watches to manufacturer's to service, ever since I had a bad experience with an independent local watchmaker (he kept it for over and 4 months wrecked the chrono module when reassembling, and this was a guy with good reviews).
That was what I meant by my comment regarding it being engineered it last. It’s a shame that they designed it to be disposable in a “luxury” product-albeit entry level luxury. It reminds me of the Swatch Scuba Fifty Fathoms Sistem51 movement-designed and engineered to last 5-10 years at best and then get chucked into a land fill. I hope at the very least Tudor is recycling the movements they are replacing so they aren’t wasting material. I’ve spoken to a lot of watchmakers that enjoy working on Rolex because they say that they’re engineered for watchmakers. I would’ve thought they’d have done the same with these Tudor/Kenessi in-house movements-but I guess I was wrong.
The add a photo function still only lets you post one photo at a time on the app ( only gripe )
Just a side question... how often do Tudor update their models? Like Rolex seems to update every 10 years or when certain anniversary comes up... just wondering Tudor 😅 thank you in advance!
That was what I meant by my comment regarding it being engineered it last. It’s a shame that they designed it to be disposable in a “luxury” product-albeit entry level luxury. It reminds me of the Swatch Scuba Fifty Fathoms Sistem51 movement-designed and engineered to last 5-10 years at best and then get chucked into a land fill. I hope at the very least Tudor is recycling the movements they are replacing so they aren’t wasting material. I’ve spoken to a lot of watchmakers that enjoy working on Rolex because they say that they’re engineered for watchmakers. I would’ve thought they’d have done the same with these Tudor/Kenessi in-house movements-but I guess I was wrong.
Paul I wonder what the cost of a Kinissi service is ? I don’t intend to service my Ranger for at least 10 years because I wear it maybe 40% of a week , if they actually just toss the movement whats the point of worrying about excessive wear on the components if the service cost is just replacing the movement anyway ? Would love Tudor to explain this one !
I love how my bb58 sits on wrist. it's just about perfect for me.
If tudor made a burgundy edition BB58 or even BB54 I'd have a tough time staying away
Paul I wonder what the cost of a Kinissi service is ? I don’t intend to service my Ranger for at least 10 years because I wear it maybe 40% of a week , if they actually just toss the movement whats the point of worrying about excessive wear on the components if the service cost is just replacing the movement anyway ? Would love Tudor to explain this one !
I totally feel ya. And this whole situation has me think about my Black Bay Chrono with its Breitling B01 derived movement. I wonder if that caliber would be tossed or serviced.
BO1 is pretty much a great movement, it’s totally serviceable, but as you point out what would Tudor’s policy be ?!?
Perfection!