First watch to reach Mt Everest summit?

IMO it was this Borgel. Reached the summit in June 1924. Unfortunately it didn't make it down until 1999. ๐Ÿ˜”

https://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/blogmalloryswatch.php

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IMO it was a Casio DW-5000C but the terrible people from Japan decided to cover up this feat for 30 years until the official launch in the 80's

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Mallory?

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Catskinner

IMO it was a Casio DW-5000C but the terrible people from Japan decided to cover up this feat for 30 years until the official launch in the 80's

It doesn't count if you've flown it up there using alien technology.

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Inkitatus

Mallory?

George Herbert Leigh Mallory (18 June 1886 โ€“ 8/9 June 1924)

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Fascinating article. Thanks for sharing.

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Ahhh, the old was Mallory the first to summit debate! As someone who has been to Everest and seen how demanding the mountain is, I can say with certainty - who knows! Maybe he did summit and died on the way down. I think that is the most likely explanation. Being so close to the summit I think he would have pushed for it, made it and then died either through oxygen deprivation or sheer exhaustion.

I saw a few graves up there which adds to the realisation that it is unforgiving and beautiful but deadly.

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Inkitatus

Mallory?

Borgel made the watch

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I saw this watch in the metal. AD wouldnโ€™t let me try it on

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Always_Pooh

Ahhh, the old was Mallory the first to summit debate! As someone who has been to Everest and seen how demanding the mountain is, I can say with certainty - who knows! Maybe he did summit and died on the way down. I think that is the most likely explanation. Being so close to the summit I think he would have pushed for it, made it and then died either through oxygen deprivation or sheer exhaustion.

I saw a few graves up there which adds to the realisation that it is unforgiving and beautiful but deadly.

Summit, attempt or just to basecamp? I want details either way. So cool

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CliveBarker1967

George Herbert Leigh Mallory (18 June 1886 โ€“ 8/9 June 1924)

@WristCounselor

Thank you, was at work and didn't read the article.

Had heard of him and have just read your link

Fascinating, thank you for posting ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

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WristCounselor

Summit, attempt or just to basecamp? I want details either way. So cool

Google the photographs he was astonishingly well preserved. It was a heroic attempt

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We wonโ€™t even go there with the conspiracy theories surrounding the Chinese finding Andrew Irvineโ€™s body AND camera and spiriting him off the mountain and developing the filmโ€ฆ.

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Inkitatus

Mallory?

A mountaineer who was on the 1924 Everest expedition

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I'm very interested about Everest, and especially the 1924 expedition, very cool

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Slowmaster

We wonโ€™t even go there with the conspiracy theories surrounding the Chinese finding Andrew Irvineโ€™s body AND camera and spiriting him off the mountain and developing the filmโ€ฆ.

Yeah. Iโ€™ve seen those on YouTube. I think Irving is up there still

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Crazy_Dana

Google the photographs he was astonishingly well preserved. It was a heroic attempt

No. I meant I want details from @Always_Pooh

I want to know what he was doing on Everest.

I did see that watch in person. Along with all of Malloryโ€™s other personal effects taken from Everest. They were on display at the National Geographic Museum in Washington DC a year or two ago.

The photo of his watch that I posted, is a photo I personally took

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WristCounselor

No. I meant I want details from @Always_Pooh

I want to know what he was doing on Everest.

I did see that watch in person. Along with all of Malloryโ€™s other personal effects taken from Everest. They were on display at the National Geographic Museum in Washington DC a year or two ago.

The photo of his watch that I posted, is a photo I personally took

Impressive. Thumbs up from us stay at homes!

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Surprised the strap is so small.

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WristCounselor

Yeah. Iโ€™ve seen those on YouTube. I think Irving is up there still

I agree.

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Grummpy

Surprised the strap is so small.

Trench watches were all like that. Not much more than pocket watches with solid lugs welded on. In reality you don't need much to hold a watch to your wrist.

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In your face Rolex!

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WristCounselor

Summit, attempt or just to basecamp? I want details either way. So cool

Base camp and Kalar Pattar which is higher and looks down on base camp. Amazing experience in every way. A summit attempt would be around ยฃ20,000 and three months. The flight into and out of Lukla was brilliant but a tad scary as it is the most dangerous place to fly in and out of. A tiny Yeti Air plane that makes you wonder if it is safe!

I read a report this week that slated Nepalese carriers as having planes that didnโ€™t meet international standards!!

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Always_Pooh

Base camp and Kalar Pattar which is higher and looks down on base camp. Amazing experience in every way. A summit attempt would be around ยฃ20,000 and three months. The flight into and out of Lukla was brilliant but a tad scary as it is the most dangerous place to fly in and out of. A tiny Yeti Air plane that makes you wonder if it is safe!

I read a report this week that slated Nepalese carriers as having planes that didnโ€™t meet international standards!!

I want to do the hike to basecamp. Bucket list. Alas, maybe 2025 or 26

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Hmmmmmmm.

Watch comments. . . . I'm sure the watchmakers comments are spot on.

Mountaineering comments . . . . . As a (ex) mountaineer (who also did a little climbing while working in the Everest region. . . . . )

This thing about Mallory is a sort of odd recurrent "debate" . . . . .

However in the serious climbing community, to claim a summit, especially one like Jomolungama/Everest is it's required to have some sort of objective evidence of a being on summit. (Photo, eye witness)

There is none at present.

"Certainty" of friends, admirers, accomplices is not in any way objective.

And to return alive is generally thought to be pretty important (as getting down is frequently more challenging)

Serious climbers accept that the 1953 British Expedition was the first valid summit by Tenzing Norgay Sherpa and Edmund Hillary a New Zealander.

(I suspect that if two Englishman had submitted Everest in 1953 the "debate" wouldn't be recurrently dredged up)

This is not to say that Mallory and Irvine weren't great climbers who did an amazing climb.

But there really isn't a debate about Mallory and Irvine. . . .

There's is no objective evidence, just hearsay.

Jomolungama Everest was first summitted in 1953.

(Reaches for popcorn)

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Slartibartfast

Hmmmmmmm.

Watch comments. . . . I'm sure the watchmakers comments are spot on.

Mountaineering comments . . . . . As a (ex) mountaineer (who also did a little climbing while working in the Everest region. . . . . )

This thing about Mallory is a sort of odd recurrent "debate" . . . . .

However in the serious climbing community, to claim a summit, especially one like Jomolungama/Everest is it's required to have some sort of objective evidence of a being on summit. (Photo, eye witness)

There is none at present.

"Certainty" of friends, admirers, accomplices is not in any way objective.

And to return alive is generally thought to be pretty important (as getting down is frequently more challenging)

Serious climbers accept that the 1953 British Expedition was the first valid summit by Tenzing Norgay Sherpa and Edmund Hillary a New Zealander.

(I suspect that if two Englishman had submitted Everest in 1953 the "debate" wouldn't be recurrently dredged up)

This is not to say that Mallory and Irvine weren't great climbers who did an amazing climb.

But there really isn't a debate about Mallory and Irvine. . . .

There's is no objective evidence, just hearsay.

Jomolungama Everest was first summitted in 1953.

(Reaches for popcorn)

Next your be saying Reinhold Messner wasn't the first to do the 14. ๐Ÿ˜‰

I actually believe as they were not seen above the Hillary step they probably didn't make the summit. But that would ruin my post so please don't say it out loud....

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Soz :-)

(Hillary Step is on the south Col route so pretty convinced they weren't seen there ;-)

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Slartibartfast

Soz :-)

(Hillary Step is on the south Col route so pretty convinced they weren't seen there ;-)

๐Ÿ˜‚ Yes Second Step my bad. I'm not aware if their actual route is known?

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CliveBarker1967

Next your be saying Reinhold Messner wasn't the first to do the 14. ๐Ÿ˜‰

I actually believe as they were not seen above the Hillary step they probably didn't make the summit. But that would ruin my post so please don't say it out loud....

Nonetheless.

Amazing they got so far about 100 years ago!!