Weapons 'n Watches

Most gun guys I know are also into watches. I have a few that pair well too!

My EDC is stainless steel perfection - an Ed Brown Custom Kobra Carry and the Steinhart Ocean GMT Special Edition from OLKO

For things that go bump in the night, it's a SIG P229 TacOps and a G-Shock

In competitions, where scores are measured in fractions of seconds, its a Wilson Combat and my Tissot V8 Chrono

And of course, it's a Single Action and a pocketwatch for riding trails on horseback.

I'm perfectly happy with the first three...but I really need a better pocket watch! ANY SUGGESTIONS????

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Wow, you’d be doing serious time over here if anyone caught you with that … Steinhart!

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Find an old Hamilton, Elgin, Gruen or Illinois piece from the late 1800s/early 1900s. They should be reasonably affordable, and better than anything you can get in pocketwatch form today.

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WatchBee

Wow, you’d be doing serious time over here if anyone caught you with that … Steinhart!

"Where is over here"? The most shocking gun laws I've experienced were in Jamaica! Zero guns, zero tolerance, and only one penalty...LIFE IN PRISON! They actually have a special court and a special prison for firearms offenders! Yet the country, outside of the resorts, is RIFE with violent crime. Which is sad - because it is my heaven on earth.

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JBird7986

Find an old Hamilton, Elgin, Gruen or Illinois piece from the late 1800s/early 1900s. They should be reasonably affordable, and better than anything you can get in pocketwatch form today.

Very cool, thanks! I'll have a look!

Bondage

"Where is over here"? The most shocking gun laws I've experienced were in Jamaica! Zero guns, zero tolerance, and only one penalty...LIFE IN PRISON! They actually have a special court and a special prison for firearms offenders! Yet the country, outside of the resorts, is RIFE with violent crime. Which is sad - because it is my heaven on earth.

I'd guess "over here" might be the UK or much of Europe where guns, especially handguns, are tightly regulated and a decidedly niche interest - farmers, hunters and the odd competitive target shooter. I don't know any gun guys so I'm not sure whether they're also into watches or not.

In terms of pocket watches, if you're in the US you're spoiled for choice as some of the finest ever were American made. Elgin, Waltham, Hamilton probably the biggest three brands. Railroad grade from a really reputable seller is likely to be a safe bet but expensive. Lots of other bargains to be had but it's a bit of a minefield and requires research to avoid being ripped off.

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Bondage

"Where is over here"? The most shocking gun laws I've experienced were in Jamaica! Zero guns, zero tolerance, and only one penalty...LIFE IN PRISON! They actually have a special court and a special prison for firearms offenders! Yet the country, outside of the resorts, is RIFE with violent crime. Which is sad - because it is my heaven on earth.

UK. It wouldn’t be life in prison here for possession, but certainly serious jail time.

But I make no point about appropriateness or not of gun laws according to each country’s customs and circumstances. 😀

WatchBee

UK. It wouldn’t be life in prison here for possession, but certainly serious jail time.

But I make no point about appropriateness or not of gun laws according to each country’s customs and circumstances. 😀

Exactly. US and UK are both sovereign nations whose people have decided democratically how to regulate firearms.

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nichtvondiesemjahrhundert

I'd guess "over here" might be the UK or much of Europe where guns, especially handguns, are tightly regulated and a decidedly niche interest - farmers, hunters and the odd competitive target shooter. I don't know any gun guys so I'm not sure whether they're also into watches or not.

In terms of pocket watches, if you're in the US you're spoiled for choice as some of the finest ever were American made. Elgin, Waltham, Hamilton probably the biggest three brands. Railroad grade from a really reputable seller is likely to be a safe bet but expensive. Lots of other bargains to be had but it's a bit of a minefield and requires research to avoid being ripped off.

Interesting. Thanks! I'll dive down that pocketwatch rabbit-hole this year. A wristwatch on horseback just doesn't feel right. 😉

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My current conceal carry is the cw-9. My backup carry gun is glock 30. I rarely carry a backup gun tho.

1911 is just too heavy and big to carry conceal imo. I used to carry it back in the days when i was younger. Knew a guy that packed two full sized 1911 and a pocket knife. LololoI.

Used to carry glock-19 for over 10 years but went to cw-9 because it smaller and I am a sucker for stainless. I do have smaller size guns like glock 43 but single stack stainless slide is where my heart belongs.

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Bondage

Interesting. Thanks! I'll dive down that pocketwatch rabbit-hole this year. A wristwatch on horseback just doesn't feel right. 😉

Good luck on the pocket watch hunt! Another thought - I didn't clock the horseback bit so I'd actually suggest something with shock protection. Incabloc or similar.

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nichtvondiesemjahrhundert

Good luck on the pocket watch hunt! Another thought - I didn't clock the horseback bit so I'd actually suggest something with shock protection. Incabloc or similar.

Incabloc was historically the most popular shockproof technology so much so that some brands advertised it as a feature on the dial. Plenty of modern Swiss watches use it, they just don't advertise it any more as all modern mechanical movements have shock protection.

I'd say that $125 is quite steep for that watch. Arnex made loads of pocket watches in the 60s and 70s as retro pieces. The cases are pretty basic in gold-toned base metal but the movements, hands and dials are solid. The one you linked likely contains a wristwatch movement, the Unitas 6325. Nothing wrong with that but I'd keep looking for one with a Unitas 6497 or 6498, one of the last true pocket watch movements, variants of which were also used by Panerai. They ar common can often be found for $50-75.

One other thing - there are two styles of pocket watch, ones with a lid covering the dial "hunter" or "savonnette" type and ones with the dial always visible called "open face" or "Lépine". Each has its advantages. Personally I like the open face sort because there's no faff opening the cover and because they can be enjoyed on a stand as a desk clock when you're not wearing them.

More info here about how to find 6497 or 6498 movement-equipped Arnexes:

http://www.asian-watches.com/2016/03/how-to-buy-eta-unitas-6497-or-6498.html?m=1

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„Most gun guys I know are also into watches.“

Luckily it is not the other way round.

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After getting your pocket watch, you should take a look at casio 9400, 6900, master of g (mudmaster, frogman, gulfmaster, etc), and pro trek series.

Rangman and Glock 30.

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I find that this gun pairs very well with Hublot.

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Chronomaster

„Most gun guys I know are also into watches.“

Luckily it is not the other way round.

Why is that lucky!? Everyone needs two stupidly expensive hobbies. 😂

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nichtvondiesemjahrhundert

Incabloc was historically the most popular shockproof technology so much so that some brands advertised it as a feature on the dial. Plenty of modern Swiss watches use it, they just don't advertise it any more as all modern mechanical movements have shock protection.

I'd say that $125 is quite steep for that watch. Arnex made loads of pocket watches in the 60s and 70s as retro pieces. The cases are pretty basic in gold-toned base metal but the movements, hands and dials are solid. The one you linked likely contains a wristwatch movement, the Unitas 6325. Nothing wrong with that but I'd keep looking for one with a Unitas 6497 or 6498, one of the last true pocket watch movements, variants of which were also used by Panerai. They ar common can often be found for $50-75.

One other thing - there are two styles of pocket watch, ones with a lid covering the dial "hunter" or "savonnette" type and ones with the dial always visible called "open face" or "Lépine". Each has its advantages. Personally I like the open face sort because there's no faff opening the cover and because they can be enjoyed on a stand as a desk clock when you're not wearing them.

More info here about how to find 6497 or 6498 movement-equipped Arnexes:

http://www.asian-watches.com/2016/03/how-to-buy-eta-unitas-6497-or-6498.html?m=1

You're so full of great knowledge! Thanks! 👍😎

Bondage

You're so full of great knowledge! Thanks! 👍😎

Just been down the rabbit hole a few times 😉

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nichtvondiesemjahrhundert

Incabloc was historically the most popular shockproof technology so much so that some brands advertised it as a feature on the dial. Plenty of modern Swiss watches use it, they just don't advertise it any more as all modern mechanical movements have shock protection.

I'd say that $125 is quite steep for that watch. Arnex made loads of pocket watches in the 60s and 70s as retro pieces. The cases are pretty basic in gold-toned base metal but the movements, hands and dials are solid. The one you linked likely contains a wristwatch movement, the Unitas 6325. Nothing wrong with that but I'd keep looking for one with a Unitas 6497 or 6498, one of the last true pocket watch movements, variants of which were also used by Panerai. They ar common can often be found for $50-75.

One other thing - there are two styles of pocket watch, ones with a lid covering the dial "hunter" or "savonnette" type and ones with the dial always visible called "open face" or "Lépine". Each has its advantages. Personally I like the open face sort because there's no faff opening the cover and because they can be enjoyed on a stand as a desk clock when you're not wearing them.

More info here about how to find 6497 or 6498 movement-equipped Arnexes:

http://www.asian-watches.com/2016/03/how-to-buy-eta-unitas-6497-or-6498.html?m=1

I used the Make an Offer and offered $75 for it. I want a "hunter" type...and it has horses (my third stupidly expensive hobby) on it! We'll see if the seller accepts. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.

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Maybe the reason why I don't have my Sēl FTX HAQ, CWC RND, or Tudor MN is because my fun money helps the bottomline of Icarus Precision, Sig, Stealth Arms and DD....🤐😉

Not too mention ammo for target practice.

But for watches, it's not as old school as others have mention, but Orient did a couple pocket watches that weren't terribly expensive.

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Gun guy and watch guy? Following...

My concealed carry choice: S&W Airweight w/ CTC laser grips. It pairs well with whatever I'm wearing on my wrist. 👍

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In winter I'll sometimes carry this SAR in a balanced shoulder rig.

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I have a vintage watch guide which includes pocket watches. Let me know if you want me to look up something in it, including production numbers and their corresponding dates. I'll pass along anything I can find. 🍻

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Today's EDC, Mako and X Frame 320....😉🤙🏻

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This gun related post was suprisingly well tolerated...

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MASP7GMT

This gun related post was suprisingly well tolerated...

Is there a reason it wouldn't be?

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Bondage

Is there a reason it wouldn't be?

Just pleasantly surprised...

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How about a vintage Molnija? Pocket watch conversion. Not exactly the old west, but...

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nichtvondiesemjahrhundert

Incabloc was historically the most popular shockproof technology so much so that some brands advertised it as a feature on the dial. Plenty of modern Swiss watches use it, they just don't advertise it any more as all modern mechanical movements have shock protection.

I'd say that $125 is quite steep for that watch. Arnex made loads of pocket watches in the 60s and 70s as retro pieces. The cases are pretty basic in gold-toned base metal but the movements, hands and dials are solid. The one you linked likely contains a wristwatch movement, the Unitas 6325. Nothing wrong with that but I'd keep looking for one with a Unitas 6497 or 6498, one of the last true pocket watch movements, variants of which were also used by Panerai. They ar common can often be found for $50-75.

One other thing - there are two styles of pocket watch, ones with a lid covering the dial "hunter" or "savonnette" type and ones with the dial always visible called "open face" or "Lépine". Each has its advantages. Personally I like the open face sort because there's no faff opening the cover and because they can be enjoyed on a stand as a desk clock when you're not wearing them.

More info here about how to find 6497 or 6498 movement-equipped Arnexes:

http://www.asian-watches.com/2016/03/how-to-buy-eta-unitas-6497-or-6498.html?m=1

So....long story short, that pocketwatch was purchased and has already been returned. It was nice looking, hefty, and all seemed well until I wound it fully for the first time. And the movement froze. I could tap and jiggle it and it would tick for 10 or 15 seconds, then freeze up again. After a minute or two of such nonsense, it would run for a few hours, then need to be wound again - and freeze again once wound. Ugh.

My search continues.