bioceramic isn't plastic?

Feel plastic

I honestly wouldn’t waste your time.

Picture cereal box toy , lucky dip toy , think toy first . Kmart bargain bin toy but costing hundreds of dollars because it says Blancpain . Like a peddle car with a Porsche badge .

Exactly why I want one (eventually,in a year or two). They're the watch equivalent of the Evel Knievel wind up toy I loved 👍🏻😁

What the heart wants the heart wants my friend:)

I watched reviews by Andrew Morgan and Watch Chris. The models are a mixed bag but not as bad as many crunchers would have you believe. Bioceramic is not entirely plastic.

https://www.beyondthedial.com/post/hands-on-review-the-swatch-34mm-slim-caricia-verde-bioceramic-explained/#:~:text=Swatch's%20Bioceramic%20is%20a%20hard,the%20oil%20of%20caster%20beans.

I should read the cited material first, but it's pretty clear that the castor bean oil isn't ceramic.

@Magstime I am now wondering if beyondthedial's insistence of spelling it "caster" bean oil is a foreign thing or just lax proofreading and fact checking.

I handled several swatch speedmasters. They felt entirely plastic and correspondingly cheap feeling so sorry they can dress it up all they like but from my experience it looks and feels like a toy!

To add on, I have owned plastic swatch before, but I don't have experience with ceramic watches. Wondering by end of year, would I be able to feel the difference between plastic and ceramic watches. Haha

It’s basically still plastic. There might be a bit of a texture/sheen difference but nothing that is screaming quality. You’re not owning a ceramic watch by any appreciable means.

Nope, you’re not going to really be able to tell that much of a difference.

Feels, well, unsurprisingly, like a mix of plastic and ceramic. A little more high end than plastic or other Swatch models, outside of steel, of course. It's matte and lightweight, lighter than ceramic. Feels less dense than ceramic. The big difference vs actual ceramic will be how soft it is. If you scratch it or it faces impact, it'll deform like it's ceramic suspended in plastic. Which, you know, it is.

Oh... so I will not be getting a more budget ceramic watch then. Haha. I will still try it on, and see if getting a budget fifty fathoms will make me pay $400 or not...

No, it's definitely less dense. That said, it does feel more high end than plastic. If you get to a store and can't try anything on from one of the collabs, Swatch's new "What If..." models are also bioceramic, and likely on display. I don't think they could have done it as well with plastic. The bioceramic enables a nice matte texture and really sharp edges.

If you've already been wearing a Swatch for decades then it's going to feel like a Swatch.

No amount of shaming by the haters who never wore Swatch in the first place will dampen my joy in seeing a previously ignored underdog thrive.

Hearing haters hanging outside of the party and yelling "Turn down the music" makes the tune that much sweeter. A lot of ugly has congregated on that sidewalk and not many there look like they are having much fun other than ridiculing those that can spend a couple of hundred bucks without taking themselves too seriously.

How self important does one have to be to continously trumpet how they are "better" than a watch they have no intention of buying?

It’s always interesting when industry comes up with new materials. Swatch is deliberately vague about the composition, what’s the ratio of ”ceramics” and what compound, silicon carbide for example? Castor oil is well-known for bio-lubricants, so how much is in the compound, 2%? The crunchers saying ”it’s plastic” may have a point… 🤓

Looks like plastic. Feels like plastic. Tastes like plastic. It's probably a duck.

Whatever it’s made of, it’s some pricy of hypocrisy. ♻️ has three parts to it, The Swatch Group, “Reduce, Reuse, Recycle”

“Need your Scuba fixed? Don’t worry, because only we can do it and we’ll throw out the movement straight into the trash. But don’t worry because we used old fishnets to make the NATO straps!”

“Reduce” and “Reuse” crossed straight out with that one 📝

All the prattling about it defiling the good name of Blancpain and the children’s-cartoon understanding of TSG is all bull. The price is pretty absurd, but the essential contradiction of the Scuba should be the primary criticism of it.

Agree! Steel would be better for longevity and recycling!

I don’t think the Swatch Scuba has to be in steel. I’m fine with bioceramic and plastic watches, and love Swatches designs. i just want them to at the very least be serviceable. (Especially the “Irony” models. I mean, friggin’ honestly, Swatch…)

You brought up something that's core to swatch though. To me, swatch is all about cheaper fun watches that don't last. For those that are ok with that, cool. I would credit sistem51 for drawing my attention to automatic watches, and I bought one. I was eventually disappointed on how non lasting (and minimally repairable) it was, and I moved on from swatch to other brands, like Seiko. I like fifty fathoms, just not sure i like it enough to pay $400 for a swatch version, that again will not last and minimally repairable. The rub here, is that I am sure I don't like it enough to pay $$$ for real version. Haha

Not really. There’s nothing necessary about Swatch making an overtly wasteful product. They can still make a decent, fun watch and not force it being a brick onto their customers. And from what I read and hear from people, they like their watches and want them to last, regardless of price.