New Ultra-Chron

What does everyone thing about the new Ultra-Chrono?

5 Hz movement, 52hr reserve, 43 x 13.6mm case, Sapphire bezel insert with 120 click

TimeLab certification... more to come?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPZelOsnx0

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Love Longines, love C-cases. At 43mm it’s maybe a bit big for me. Hopefully I get a chance to try one on.

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Re-post of my thoughts in another thread on the subject:

Pros: High beat 36000 vph movement with 52 hour power reserve is ridiculously impressive, especially given that it’s just a modified Powermatic 80 movement.  Kudos to Longines on that, and I hope that they ultimately use it across their entire line.

300M WR rating.

Price.  $3500 is reasonable for what’s on offer.

Cons:  70s era styling - for me, the peak of styling was the late 50s/early 60s.  I’m not a fan of the 70s styles at all.

Service Intervals (likely).  It's not discussed but because of the 36000 vph beat rate, I'd guess that the recommended service interval is likely to be the same as an El Primero -- every 2-3 years, which I find to be awfully short.

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JBird7986

Re-post of my thoughts in another thread on the subject:

Pros: High beat 36000 vph movement with 52 hour power reserve is ridiculously impressive, especially given that it’s just a modified Powermatic 80 movement.  Kudos to Longines on that, and I hope that they ultimately use it across their entire line.

300M WR rating.

Price.  $3500 is reasonable for what’s on offer.

Cons:  70s era styling - for me, the peak of styling was the late 50s/early 60s.  I’m not a fan of the 70s styles at all.

Service Intervals (likely).  It's not discussed but because of the 36000 vph beat rate, I'd guess that the recommended service interval is likely to be the same as an El Primero -- every 2-3 years, which I find to be awfully short.

Yeah I thought about the service interval as well and I’d assume your timeframe is likely accurate given the beat rate. I agree with all your other points as well, even the price. Impressive for what’s offered and well below anything else available from others like Zenith and GS. 

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At the risk of being hunted down and killed by Longines CEO, I couldn't help immediately thinking of this!

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I’m a sucker for late-60’s and early 70’s futuristic watches, so this watch really got me excited. It’s retro, but has a solid movement, great looking bracelet, and I love the sapphire bezel where the red markings float above the black background. 
 

I likely won’t buy it though -I’ve learned that I can’t just buy the niche stuff that excites me (think Speedmaster Mark II) or else I don’t end up with “nice” stuff. My Grand Seiko SBGP015 has a similar aesthetic, is my favourite watch, but often when I’m out and about I’d rather have on my Cartier or a Rolex -something that people “get”. 
 

Who do you think will be buying this? I have to believe it’s going to sell mainly to enthusiasts that already have at least a couple other watches.…. or maybe people with a very particular aesthetic that the watch really fits into? 

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It's an addition to the every increasing list of WANTS.

Nice looking watch with great specs.

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WBoggs

I’m a sucker for late-60’s and early 70’s futuristic watches, so this watch really got me excited. It’s retro, but has a solid movement, great looking bracelet, and I love the sapphire bezel where the red markings float above the black background. 
 

I likely won’t buy it though -I’ve learned that I can’t just buy the niche stuff that excites me (think Speedmaster Mark II) or else I don’t end up with “nice” stuff. My Grand Seiko SBGP015 has a similar aesthetic, is my favourite watch, but often when I’m out and about I’d rather have on my Cartier or a Rolex -something that people “get”. 
 

Who do you think will be buying this? I have to believe it’s going to sell mainly to enthusiasts that already have at least a couple other watches.…. or maybe people with a very particular aesthetic that the watch really fits into? 

I really might. I kind of dig the retro re-issue stuff that Longines is doing recently (i.e. Zulu). A lot for the $$ and almost $3k less than closest “hi beat” movement. 
 

I agree that most people other than the nerds here would say “Ultra what?!”..  but the longer I go down this rabbit hole the more comfortable I get wearing and buying watches that excite ME and with less concern to what I’d think others would think. Maybe I’m just getting old and sensing my own mortality..?

This Ultra-Chron has a very vintage “SMP 300 I’m Almost Indestructible And Very Accurate While Being Able To Be Easily Dressed Up And Down GADA” watch vibe. Agree it’s for a certain taste, but well done. 

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The design isn’t necessarily for me but everything about the watch is impressive and I’m excited to see this movement in other watches!

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At the present time Longines seems to be at the top of their game, a lot of new releases with different selling points and a relevant price. May be some other watch manufacturers need to take note 

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JBird7986

Re-post of my thoughts in another thread on the subject:

Pros: High beat 36000 vph movement with 52 hour power reserve is ridiculously impressive, especially given that it’s just a modified Powermatic 80 movement.  Kudos to Longines on that, and I hope that they ultimately use it across their entire line.

300M WR rating.

Price.  $3500 is reasonable for what’s on offer.

Cons:  70s era styling - for me, the peak of styling was the late 50s/early 60s.  I’m not a fan of the 70s styles at all.

Service Intervals (likely).  It's not discussed but because of the 36000 vph beat rate, I'd guess that the recommended service interval is likely to be the same as an El Primero -- every 2-3 years, which I find to be awfully short.

Longines website gives a generic "six to eight years" as the service interval for all of their watches...

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AlohaJ

Longines website gives a generic "six to eight years" as the service interval for all of their watches...

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All of their watches in the last 40+ years barring this one have beat at 28800 or 25200 vph. Anything beating at 36000 vph is going to need more frequent lubrication/service.  Zenith El Primeros for instance, also run at 36000 vph and require a service every 2-3 years.  Grand Seiko also recommends service every 3 years on its high beat models.  Based on the fact that until this, those have been the only two 36000 vph movements made since the 70s, I wouldn't expect the Ultrachron to be any different.

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I agree that makes sense: more bph = faster wear. But Longines still says 5-6 year service, even on the Ultra-Chron.

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AlohaJ

I agree that makes sense: more bph = faster wear. But Longines still says 5-6 year service, even on the Ultra-Chron.

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Wow, reason #45 to want it 

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valleykilmers

Wow, reason #45 to want it 

yeah, seriously! I hate it when every diver I buy, I swear it's my last diver...and then something like this comes out! 😭

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AlohaJ

yeah, seriously! I hate it when every diver I buy, I swear it's my last diver...and then something like this comes out! 😭

Every time man…

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