How much the quality of your tools changes the way you operate

With my high end watches I go to the AD to remove the bracelet,but on my beater watches I used the tool supplied by Bremont

Guess wich one is the bergeon 😂

Nice way to go

My cheap kit from Amazon has just about served it’s useful life so have been looking to get a few bits that step up the quality 👍

I hate it, but it does matter. I have a few Bergeon screwdrivers and strap tools, worth the price, sorta. I say that because there are a few intermediate brands (Horotec being one) that get you a big step up from the Amazon cheap stuff without having to dish out Bergeon price when you dont really need it (once in a while stuff).

Bearing in mind that a Bergeon tool will not stop you from scratching a case or f*cking up a screw.

Will try horotec, thank you for the hint. I only taken the springbar tool because is the one that I use the most and I thought that I would be able to tell the difference using it.

Interesting, thank you for your suggestion

I bought the slightly more expensive Bergeon 6111, which makes changing fat, collarless, Seiko spring bars so much easier. I also bought a five piece Bergeon screwdriver set, which I haven't used much but it looks nice 🙄. Everything else... calipers, ultrasonic cleaner, caseback opener, bracelet tools, demagnetiser, UV torch etc. is cheap and cheerful and Chinese. I can fix most of watch issues except a movement strip down, which I don't have the patience for anyway. So my setup works for me.

Recently, been building a few watches and I feel that a great tool that won’t chip or bend or even easily magnified would be awesome and would make my builds better and faster but I think as well 🤔… are the tools better or am I getter better at it?! But def. It’s the tools 😜🥳😂

Ohhh I want these screwdrivers!! The Aliexpress set I got, it’s chipped already and easily magnetized 😖… wow the price though ouch! I pd like $10 bucks for my set lol… I guess you get what you pay for…

Cool! Ill ck this out!! Awesome thanks!!

Burgeon is great. Eurotool is less expensive alternative and their tools are OK.

Noted, thank you

Link?

I didn't consider, but between comments there are two mid high brands very interesting horotec and eurotool...

Is that a homage, clone or clonage set? 😂

Yes, good tools make a difference, but no, they're generally not worth the price. I have a Burgeon spring bar tool, but I use it often enough, and the price isn't outlandish. But the rest of my tools are of the cheap Amazon variety. I'm not going to spend hundreds for spring bar pliers, or for a set of proper watchmaking screwdrivers. I'm sure they make a difference if you use them every day to work on movements, but not for resizing a bracelet a couple times a year.

Totally agree with you

I would agree with you here.

I also find small paperclips work better in some manufacturers drilled lug holes.

The higher end straight end sides are sometimes too big.

Completely random but I once watched my grandad change out his bracelet on his 50's era, base exchange bought, Gold Rolex with his old-timer pocket knife and a file....🤯

Butchering your watches is never a good thing, you need good tools.

Among watchmakers bergeon has the reputation of "they're overpriced and every tool you buy from them needs adjustment but they have all the things you need and making them yorself from scratch is way too much work"

Fo example, during apprenticeship we had to grind down and polish the strap removing tool to a sharp edge to get into tightly fit straps

I have used varying kitchen cutlery, paper clips, thumb tacs, and a hammer to remove links on my watches bought online. I have managed to do it this way but it's very time consuming and a lot of bad language was used in the process. 😂😂😂😂 Though with a proper kit I could probably do it a lot quicker. I keep meaning to order one online. Maybe this post might spark me into doing just that.

Trust me, the training with the bad words comes always at hand...