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Consider ourselves lucky that we've had back to back releases of Seiko and Tudor's greatest hits albums in the BB54 and the 62MAS. Both 37-38mm, both about $3500, so which is the best vintage reissue diver of 2023?

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The Seiko looks much better.

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Was waiting for this post! After watching the video, decided to put on a vintage style Certina on a tropic strap.

I feel it shares the same or similar vibe with these 2 watches

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"You don't buy watches with your head. You buy it with your heart..." Yup. Otherwise, we'd all have a one-and-done G-Shock. ❤

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arquelius

Was waiting for this post! After watching the video, decided to put on a vintage style Certina on a tropic strap.

I feel it shares the same or similar vibe with these 2 watches

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Love it, total vintage vibes

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arthurzhuk

The Seiko looks much better.

I like the golden arrows of #bb54 more, it gives more elegance to the entire look

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Pablito

"You don't buy watches with your head. You buy it with your heart..." Yup. Otherwise, we'd all have a one-and-done G-Shock. ❤

Exactly! This hobby isn't supposed to make sense 😉

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"The BB54 is small, but it's complicated"..... Is this Tudor's famed perpetual no-date with crown-activated chronograph if you hack the seconds at the right time grand complication 🤔🤔🤔

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street.credor

"The BB54 is small, but it's complicated"..... Is this Tudor's famed perpetual no-date with crown-activated chronograph if you hack the seconds at the right time grand complication 🤔🤔🤔

Never heard of that one

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I gravitate towards the 62MAS. I own a MM300 because it's an iconic diver. Let's face it, the MM300 is a heavy beast. Where the 62MAS could have taken some ques from the MM300 is the movement. If the 62MAS has a caliber 8L35 movement or better then I'd pull the trigger. The 62MAS running a caliber 8L35 makes a better price/value/quality comparison with the BB54. Sure the MM300 is a wristburger of old-school cool. The fit and finish plus movement are incredible. I actually think not creating a bracelet version of the 62MAS is wise idea. Again, comparing the MM300 the bracelet not on par with the case and movement. Your issue with Tudor bracelet faux rivets (mine as well) is my issue with Seiko & Grand Seiko diver bracelets/clasps. Come on Seiko! You have engineering skills - use them.

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TimeJunkie

I gravitate towards the 62MAS. I own a MM300 because it's an iconic diver. Let's face it, the MM300 is a heavy beast. Where the 62MAS could have taken some ques from the MM300 is the movement. If the 62MAS has a caliber 8L35 movement or better then I'd pull the trigger. The 62MAS running a caliber 8L35 makes a better price/value/quality comparison with the BB54. Sure the MM300 is a wristburger of old-school cool. The fit and finish plus movement are incredible. I actually think not creating a bracelet version of the 62MAS is wise idea. Again, comparing the MM300 the bracelet not on par with the case and movement. Your issue with Tudor bracelet faux rivets (mine as well) is my issue with Seiko & Grand Seiko diver bracelets/clasps. Come on Seiko! You have engineering skills - use them.

Yeah I agree, if this had a high accuracy movement, it'd be a grand slam

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Max

Yeah I agree, if this had a high accuracy movement, it'd be a grand slam

It certainly would get way more wrist time than my MM300. Probably the watch I'd wear the most

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Is the new Seiko SLE093 limited edition still generally available or sold out?

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Seiko wins, as usual. The 62MAS is such a significant watch, really the first dive watch Seiko ever made.

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doolittle

Is the new Seiko SLE093 limited edition still generally available or sold out?

I'm guessing it's very hard to just buy one without a list at this point. Talk to your AD

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SurferJohn

Seiko wins, as usual. The 62MAS is such a significant watch, really the first dive watch Seiko ever made.

Yep, exactly 💯

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I am a fan of both brands, my heart would tell me to buy the Seiko 62 MAS but my brain would tell me to go for the BB54. I would probably end up with both in my collection.

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TucoSpeed

I am a fan of both brands, my heart would tell me to buy the Seiko 62 MAS but my brain would tell me to go for the BB54. I would probably end up with both in my collection.

There's room for both 😉

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TimeJunkie

I gravitate towards the 62MAS. I own a MM300 because it's an iconic diver. Let's face it, the MM300 is a heavy beast. Where the 62MAS could have taken some ques from the MM300 is the movement. If the 62MAS has a caliber 8L35 movement or better then I'd pull the trigger. The 62MAS running a caliber 8L35 makes a better price/value/quality comparison with the BB54. Sure the MM300 is a wristburger of old-school cool. The fit and finish plus movement are incredible. I actually think not creating a bracelet version of the 62MAS is wise idea. Again, comparing the MM300 the bracelet not on par with the case and movement. Your issue with Tudor bracelet faux rivets (mine as well) is my issue with Seiko & Grand Seiko diver bracelets/clasps. Come on Seiko! You have engineering skills - use them.

The 8L35 wouldn't fit into the case of SJE 62mas. The 6L is basically an 8L with a lower power reserve. 6L is not 6R.

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I like the 62 mas, but I would rather spend my money on an MM300 or a Darth Tuna and get a 38mm non-diver for when I need a small watch.

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The Seiko looks amazing but with that 3.7mm thick movement it should be a whole millimetre thinner, boxed glass or not....

TAG Heuer managed 10mm thick watches with 200m WR and rotating bezel while using an ETA 2892 which is 3.6mm thick and that was 30y ago.

Oh, and it should also be half the price for what you're getting. But other than that it's great.

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The look of the Seiko is great but the movement specs seem well off at the price point, the SPB297 has a 70hr reserve and similar looks with the quoted accuracy being more forgivable at $1200 dollars (and reportedly much better in practice)

Would love to see this design with a hi-beat or higher spec movement

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62MAS all day every day in this case.

I love Tudor Submariners, so I don’t know why they decided to make a reissue/homage of an original Rolex Sub, while having Mini Sub in their own back catalogue.

Tudor is a sister company to Rolex, I get it, but they also have the pedigree of their own. They capitalize on it with a Pelagos, so why don’t give the chance to a more daring mini sub design.

So between this and Seiko - I’d go Seiko.

Between 62MAS and Mini Sub - man, it’s a Mini Sub, no brainer!

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Great video Max - cheers.

I tried on a work colleague's '54 (he lives in Seattle and when he saw it in a window, went straight in and bought it). I congratulated him on it, but decided it wasn't a watch ever choose.

Re the accuracy - I wonder if this new 6L has generally better than stated accuracy; Seiko is just doing a bit of under promise over deliver. The reviews I've read on the SJE all seem to have your experience of being within a second or 2 per day.

Would also love to see this same watch released with EB steel and a blue dial as well (I'm more into color and less into tradition!)

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Fieldwalker

Great video Max - cheers.

I tried on a work colleague's '54 (he lives in Seattle and when he saw it in a window, went straight in and bought it). I congratulated him on it, but decided it wasn't a watch ever choose.

Re the accuracy - I wonder if this new 6L has generally better than stated accuracy; Seiko is just doing a bit of under promise over deliver. The reviews I've read on the SJE all seem to have your experience of being within a second or 2 per day.

Would also love to see this same watch released with EB steel and a blue dial as well (I'm more into color and less into tradition!)

Thanks buddy, yeah the 6L is definitely outdoing itself 👍.

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SimonB

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Fieldwalker

Great video Max - cheers.

I tried on a work colleague's '54 (he lives in Seattle and when he saw it in a window, went straight in and bought it). I congratulated him on it, but decided it wasn't a watch ever choose.

Re the accuracy - I wonder if this new 6L has generally better than stated accuracy; Seiko is just doing a bit of under promise over deliver. The reviews I've read on the SJE all seem to have your experience of being within a second or 2 per day.

Would also love to see this same watch released with EB steel and a blue dial as well (I'm more into color and less into tradition!)

Thanks buddy, yeah the 6L is definitely outdoing itself 👍.