Does anyone's METAS Omega run slow?

This is something that has kinda bugged me since i bought this watch in 2021. I posted the results of my METAS certification from the Omega website above and as you can see it falls within the parameters of the tests. However this watch has never run between 0 and +5 a day. It is about - 5 to 7 a day. I know there will be people killing me in the comments about why i care etc, but i do care.

I'm just curious among the many Omega owners here if you could give me any anecdotal evidence or info about yours running slow. Or also if there is any position I might keep the watch at night to help it speed up. Crown down seems to help a bit.

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I have an 8800 AT and position at night does seem to impact it. Mine isnt 5 to 7 seconds off though. Have you talked to your dealer? My guy would send it in for me if I had your situation.

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I do not think you’re being picky or unreasonable. It says Master Chronometer on the dial so you can rightfully expect it to run better than it is. 🌈

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HelenWheels

I have an 8800 AT and position at night does seem to impact it. Mine isnt 5 to 7 seconds off though. Have you talked to your dealer? My guy would send it in for me if I had your situation.

Thanks. I guess I should do that. Can’t hurt to check in!

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nicely

I do not think you’re being picky or unreasonable. It says Master Chronometer on the dial so you can rightfully expect it to run better than it is. 🌈

Thanks Stan. 👊🏻

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HelenWheels

I have an 8800 AT and position at night does seem to impact it. Mine isnt 5 to 7 seconds off though. Have you talked to your dealer? My guy would send it in for me if I had your situation.

so does yours run slow at times then?

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Yes.. I might lose 2 or 3 seconds but it can swing back to spot on when I law it the opposite way.

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Odd. There is a 10s per day discrepancy between the tested rate and the observed rate. You can probably have this regulated under warranty, no?

Bear in mind however that the posted screen grab seem to indicate a 14s deviation between positions. Does it provide more detail regarding the deviations for each of those positions? Perhaps you are storing the watch in a position where it runs particularly slow.

I don't think this is an unreasonable ask. You paid a lot of money and you want what it says on the can, a Master Chronometer.

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UnsignedCrown

Odd. There is a 10s per day discrepancy between the tested rate and the observed rate. You can probably have this regulated under warranty, no?

Bear in mind however that the posted screen grab seem to indicate a 14s deviation between positions. Does it provide more detail regarding the deviations for each of those positions? Perhaps you are storing the watch in a position where it runs particularly slow.

I don't think this is an unreasonable ask. You paid a lot of money and you want what it says on the can, a Master Chronometer.

Hey thanks for answering. The only info they give you on the website about the watch is that screenshot I posted. I usually store it dial up in a box or horizontal in a winder and I also have a winder that is angled slightly up. There doesn’t seem to be any difference in how it runs in any of those positions.

I tend to wear a few different watches a week; maybe I should keep this on for a full week and try it crown down at night and see how it does. Cheers buddy 👊🏻

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Yeah I dare say I wouldn't care about it but I will say that that's a gorgeous Omega you have. I really love the look of this watch, particularly the grey leather strap on it. 👍

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Mine does not. Yours shouldn't. Mine is rock solid at 3.5-4.5 seconds as day, slower when dial down at night, Faster when dial up.

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HelenWheels

I have an 8800 AT and position at night does seem to impact it. Mine isnt 5 to 7 seconds off though. Have you talked to your dealer? My guy would send it in for me if I had your situation.

My Caliber 8800 SMP 300 has a ~1 second difference between dial up and down at night, down = slower.

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tiffer

Yeah I dare say I wouldn't care about it but I will say that that's a gorgeous Omega you have. I really love the look of this watch, particularly the grey leather strap on it. 👍

I have been wearing it on the bracelet for a while lately, but I do love that leather. In fact a Watch Gecko video of this on that OEM leather is what “talked me into buying it”.

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Commisar

Mine does not. Yours shouldn't. Mine is rock solid at 3.5-4.5 seconds as day, slower when dial down at night, Faster when dial up.

Thanks for the info man ✌🏻

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yankthemike

I have been wearing it on the bracelet for a while lately, but I do love that leather. In fact a Watch Gecko video of this on that OEM leather is what “talked me into buying it”.

I'm a sucker for grey straps in general, but this watch, on that strap, is the coolest looking Aqua Terra in the vast range. Great choice 👍

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tiffer

I'm a sucker for grey straps in general, but this watch, on that strap, is the coolest looking Aqua Terra in the vast range. Great choice 👍

Mmmm. You’re making me think of putting it back on it now 😅

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RyanGochuico

I totally get you. I am also unimpressed by the "master chronometer" title omega branded themselves. Granted i only have 1 omega watch for now and that is a minute sample size. My metas certificate says +4.4 daily rate but mine would constantly run at +6 in a given 24 hour period no matter the state of wind. Ive tried not winding it much before putting it on and tried giving it 50 crown turns then putting it on for the day. Still the same deviation the next morning after it sits dial up overnight. I have found a solution that makes the watch slow down though. When placed 6 o'clock down / 12 o'clock up it only gains +2 per day.

Hopefully you can find a solution for yours as well. Metas isnt supposed to go below 0, but here we are🫠

Hmm yours runs at the EXACT upper limit.

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yankthemike

Got an email. They basically said I could send it ( at my expense)but it could take a very long time as they are back logged. I’m paraphrasing but that’s the gist of it.

Hmmm I'd say head to a boutique with your watch, have them timegrapher it and say "look, you've seen how it runs, it's clearly out of spec, what can you do for me?" If that's not possible call Omega CS and explain to them the issue, get a human being on the phone.

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Commisar

Hmmm I'd say head to a boutique with your watch, have them timegrapher it and say "look, you've seen how it runs, it's clearly out of spec, what can you do for me?" If that's not possible call Omega CS and explain to them the issue, get a human being on the phone.

Yeah that’s a good idea. Thanks man 🤝

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yankthemike

Hey everyone so I just got an email from Omega. They are willing to look at it and sent me a form. However they not only expect me to pay for shipping and insurance they also warned me “ our lead time for services are hefty due to a heavy back log etc etc”. So maybe I’ll just wait until I’m in New York and talk to the boutique there

Shipping and insurance with USPS ain't too bad. However the Omega backlog is CRAZY and has been since COVID. Think 4-12 WEEKS of turnaround time at least.

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nawirby

I am very in accuracy. I have android google clock sync to network time. I setup my watch to the second. Every day I check it again and take a note. So I have data of my watches accuracy. I wear my watches 8 - 12 hours a day.

I use the timegrapher to check and regulate my watch.

I like COSC certified watch, i have 3 of them: 2 Formex, 1 CW. It is as expected accurate.

If my Omega is not in METAS spec, I will claim warranty. (I dont have Omega btw)

Agreed, of a watch has a stated accuracy promise, it should run inside of those tolerances. This is why I'm EXTREMELY interested in the Omega SPIRATE system, which alleges +0 to +2 Seconds per day. That is EXCEPTIONALLY good for a mass produced mechanical movement and I have a feeling if Omega can get it working for the majority of their movements they'll put it on everything they can.

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Commisar

Agreed, of a watch has a stated accuracy promise, it should run inside of those tolerances. This is why I'm EXTREMELY interested in the Omega SPIRATE system, which alleges +0 to +2 Seconds per day. That is EXCEPTIONALLY good for a mass produced mechanical movement and I have a feeling if Omega can get it working for the majority of their movements they'll put it on everything they can.

Yet we didn’t even see the spirate on the new Apollo 8 Dark side that came out this January. I have a feeling this one might not have the kinks worked out

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yankthemike

Yet we didn’t even see the spirate on the new Apollo 8 Dark side that came out this January. I have a feeling this one might not have the kinks worked out

Quite possibly. Or the Apollo 8 DSOTM was too far along in it's development cycle to have SPIRATE added on.

I'm sure Omega wants to make sure it's absolutely ready for mass production before it hits the market.

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Commisar

Agreed, of a watch has a stated accuracy promise, it should run inside of those tolerances. This is why I'm EXTREMELY interested in the Omega SPIRATE system, which alleges +0 to +2 Seconds per day. That is EXCEPTIONALLY good for a mass produced mechanical movement and I have a feeling if Omega can get it working for the majority of their movements they'll put it on everything they can.

Yes. Omega should be accurate as promise, it is expensive. Formex and CW COSC cost around 2000. Mine is the spec.

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nawirby

Yes. Omega should be accurate as promise, it is expensive. Formex and CW COSC cost around 2000. Mine is the spec.

If only the Reef had a bezel like the CW Trident 300 😊

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Commisar

Hmm yours runs at the EXACT upper limit.

In the broader scope, +6 is actually impressive, but they should not state something on paper if they could not deliver. Therein lies my disappointment. My Tag and IWC are running at +1 consistently and they have no cosc or published stated accuracy. Under promise and over deliver is the key.

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RyanGochuico

In the broader scope, +6 is actually impressive, but they should not state something on paper if they could not deliver. Therein lies my disappointment. My Tag and IWC are running at +1 consistently and they have no cosc or published stated accuracy. Under promise and over deliver is the key.

Depending on the age and warranty.... If I were you I'd ask for a regulation 😅

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Commisar

Depending on the age and warranty.... If I were you I'd ask for a regulation 😅

It ran like that brand new straight out of the box when i got it in 2022, but im too lazy to fly my butt to the nearest omega boutique to claim warranty 😆

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Hi Mike, my Aqua Terra World Timer runs around -1 to -2 sec/ day on wrist and it bugs me too. I would prefer it to run faster vs slower. Maybe one day I’ll bring it down to Omega while it’s still within warranty but I always worry that something gets damaged while in their possesion.

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drewl2024

Hi Mike, my Aqua Terra World Timer runs around -1 to -2 sec/ day on wrist and it bugs me too. I would prefer it to run faster vs slower. Maybe one day I’ll bring it down to Omega while it’s still within warranty but I always worry that something gets damaged while in their possesion.

It’s good to hear from another like minded guy. So I did get an email from them. Basically I can send it to them ( at MY expense) and then wait what they warned me would probably be a while. So for the time being I’m gonna let it be. Maybe I’ll take it to an Omega boutique if I’m near one

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yankthemike

It’s good to hear from another like minded guy. So I did get an email from them. Basically I can send it to them ( at MY expense) and then wait what they warned me would probably be a while. So for the time being I’m gonna let it be. Maybe I’ll take it to an Omega boutique if I’m near one

I’m probably fortunate in the sense that I stay in a small country and it’s relatively easy to get to 2 Omega boutiques for me.