Just curious. Two on the same price level.

For me, neither. The Seiko is overpriced for what it is. I have no affection for the Black Bay. But if you like the design language of the Tudor, go for it, because it's a solid tool.

ID guy just uploaded a video on this:

Where is the accuracy from Seiko at this price point?

https://youtu.be/l2wJLFxG6CA

Both meh to me.

But I guess the Tudor will resell better.

And yes I agree with the one above before I even watch it.

I got a Seiko Flighty that currently costs well over 400 dollars. And then I found out there's a common issue where the watch basically destroys itself at the pushers. Very common issue. A bunch of people in the group had this issue and there's a bunch on eBay as well.

And no replacement parts available.

That was the last dollar I'll spend on them.

I totally understand you. I'm also not a fan of Tudor design. But for a direct comparing I needed a watch on the same price level, whith similar design language, specs and history which is also well know within the enthusiast community and offers a lot for the money in case of quality.

Thank you.

Yes....he pointed on some struggles which Seiko resently has.

The SJE093 is only one of many bad examples of Seikos recent product and pricing policy.

Thank you.

Yes....he pointed on some struggles which Seiko resently has.

The SJE093 is only one of many bad examples of Seikos recent product and pricing policy.

Seiko, really can't stand the Bland Bay range....and looks like folks don't keep them for long as the second hand market is always swamped with them, which says a lot about living with one imho!!

I rate the finish in terms of durability of my lower tier Willards above my Omega's, dunno why the Swiss don't diashield coat their cases 🤯

Both are fine watches. I picked the Seiko only because Tudor doesn’t do a thing for me except put me to sleep, boring.

I’m curious is why these two watches? You can get a really good used Omega SMP for the about same price. Or a new Sinn EZM even.

Don’t get me wrong. You picked solid, popular watches that don’t speak to me.

If they speak to you then they’re the prefect watch for you. Good luck on your choice.

Love Seiko, but almost 4k for a Seiko is a tough pill to swallow. This is easily Grand Seiko territory…

I don't understand all the topics about the cost about SJE 62mas. Definitely not like its on the permanent catalog and Seiko trying to compete with other models. This is a limited released aimed at collectors and its going to sell out especially to those who missed out on the 2017 reissue of SLA017 which on secondary market is easily over $5-6k, I'm still trying to get one allocated by my AD. Plus every SJE models released to date with the 6L caliber has been around the same price and this is no different. Just because of the popularity of the 62mas model, this got more exposure than others and it has become very controversial while all the models with 6L caliber have costed the same all these years.

I paid $3200 for the BB58 when I purchased it and now it has gone too far away from the price once it was considered a great value. At the current price, the BB58 is not a great value either and I really cannot justify the price increase for a unchanged watch.

As much as I love Seiko, to me their price positioning with these 6L movements is flat-out wrong. I would not pay $3.5k for an unregulated -10/+15 sec movement with only a 45 hours power reserve and I don't care if it's a fancy 62MAS or 44KS reissue. For this price, it's simply not competitive with Tudor offering COSC movements with 72 hours power reserve.

That being said, I would not buy a BB58 with that money either because this collection does nothing for me. Instead, I would continue saving for a Pelagos or buy a second-hand Omega.

Tudor for me as I just can’t seem to connect with Seiko, it doesn’t evoke any emotion within me for that kind of money. That said if the Seiko was £500 I’d probably buy it.

Seiko, no apologies.

I'm surprised the seiko is getting almost a quarter of the votes!

I'd go seiko 100% for myself, though. The Tudor is so focused on being an all rounder, I find it really forgettable. I think the 62mas is a very generic looking skin diver, but I love that look personally.

Yes, actually I also didn't expect that.

I expected more a 10:90 result.

Thanks for sharing your honest point of view.

For anyone paying $4K for a non-GS Seiko over a Tudor, I have a really nice bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

FFS

SJE093 has my vote.

BB is just boring, it's like a Tesla Model 3, it seems like everyone has one.

Accuracy; are you really bothered if the Seiko is 99.97% acurate and the Tudor is 99.98%? Is that really a decision factor?

Price; is it really that ridicoulous seeing how watches prices have become "arbitrary" in recent years? If you must use the movement, the 6L35 came out in 2018 with the launch of SARA015 at $2100. That was 5 years ago and this one is an improved movement in a totally brand new divers case engineered to be thinner and more wearable. Not to mention that highly accurate dial to create the most accurate re-edition to date.

I'm not saying it's not expensive, it is. BUT all watches are expensive for something no one really needs. We collectors think we buy logically but most of the time we buy with our hearts, because if that were true then we should just be buying Rolex.

You can go buy whatever you want and justify it as a better alternative, a smart move on your part you say. But when you see people with the SJE093 on, they have something special and perhaps interesting to talk to but you'll just be the "alternative" guy....LOL (I've been there, and it just never scratches the itch buying the next best thing).

This one is not for the enthusiasts, this one is for the 62MAS fanatics and to them it's worth every penny.

Pricing is highly subjective so we can ignore, but why is it a bad product? Truly curious.

Agreed 100%, it's just never cheap enough for everyone on any watch release is it? 😂 Indeed I too don't quite understand the comparison. One is targeted at niche clientale and the Tudor is targeted mass market.