Value for money and pride in ownership
Time and time again I see sotc posts in which the poster is embarrassed of their fashion watches. Heck, Ben from BWC bashing on fashion watches was what introduced me to the hobby. Similarly dissing the moonswatch was a favourite passtime of the community last year
Likewise other brands/models seem to get hate from the community too, from fossil all the way to richarde mille and the like in terms of pricing
What both owners and critics alike often forget is that hate shouldn't be directed towards the watch itself, but the brands and their pricing. Additionally, value for money exists only prior to the purchase, after the fact there is only you and the watch, so you might as well enjoy it for what it is
I was recently gifted this moonswatch by my parents. Is it my highest quality watch? No. Is it something I'd buy for myself? Also no. What it is though, is a great looking watch with sentimental value that I am proud of owning and have received plenty of compliments on
Watch obsessed. Broke kid in the military.
I'm not disagreeing with you. You're spot on about the hate some brands get from the most fanatic of fans. That said, there's also sunk cost fallacy. When you say value for money only exists prior to the purchase and once that's done you might as well just enjoy the watch. To a certain degree, yes. But I'm also hearing sunk cost fallacy there, which is something I don't abide by if I can help it. What you put into a watch is already spent, you can't unspend it by forcing to love it. Either you love it or you don't. If you don't, again, you can't unspend the money by wearing it more. You're better off selling it and cut your losses. I don't stay in the theater to finish a movie I hate in the first five minutes of watching.
Congrats on the moonswatch. I personally want one and don't understand why it's so disssd by the community.
Nice gift :-). I wish I could agree with the rest but I can’t. I believe being able to express any negative or positive opinion is part of living in a non oppressed society. And strong emotions should find open ears, or else it might lead to something worse.
And feeling personally attacked by the words of a stranger is more a testament to the prevailing zeitgeist.
I only had an issue with the way they marketed them,and the fact they were selling for £8000 was all madness,now there available in all stores I plan on getting me and my partner one 👍
I'm not disagreeing with you. You're spot on about the hate some brands get from the most fanatic of fans. That said, there's also sunk cost fallacy. When you say value for money only exists prior to the purchase and once that's done you might as well just enjoy the watch. To a certain degree, yes. But I'm also hearing sunk cost fallacy there, which is something I don't abide by if I can help it. What you put into a watch is already spent, you can't unspend it by forcing to love it. Either you love it or you don't. If you don't, again, you can't unspend the money by wearing it more. You're better off selling it and cut your losses. I don't stay in the theater to finish a movie I hate in the first five minutes of watching.
Congrats on the moonswatch. I personally want one and don't understand why it's so disssd by the community.
Agreed. If you've bought something that isn't working out there no point in keeping it. Recently gave my brother my seiko despite me loving it as it just wasn't getting any wrist time. My point is many have watches they like (often their first watch ever even) and then learn it is a fashion watch and feel retroactive shame
As for why moonswatch is so dissed its a great watch but for what you actually get its a lot of money. I do think the community was perhaps overly harsh though
Nice gift :-). I wish I could agree with the rest but I can’t. I believe being able to express any negative or positive opinion is part of living in a non oppressed society. And strong emotions should find open ears, or else it might lead to something worse.
And feeling personally attacked by the words of a stranger is more a testament to the prevailing zeitgeist.
Its sounds like we agree completely then?
Its sounds like we agree completely then?
Maybe 😁
That looks really lovely on that brown leather strap - congratulations! And very thoughtful of your parents 😍
As for the community's judgement on it: the problem is that it is ridiculously fragile. The plastic crystal on mine got scuffed by its own box. A pusher on Adrian Barker's fell off when he put his hand in his pocket. They only had to make it just a little bit better, and everyone would have been very happy. As it is, we all feel we've been taken for a ride in terms of the price. I mean, the quality and build are so bad that the Swatch group really was having a laugh, weren't they...
Mine sits in its box nearly all the time. Occasionally I take it out, put it on, and say to myself, shall I wear it to go to the supermarket? And then I put it back again because it feels like it could get ruined if it comes into contact with literally anything....
Roger Smith has one too.
That looks really lovely on that brown leather strap - congratulations! And very thoughtful of your parents 😍
As for the community's judgement on it: the problem is that it is ridiculously fragile. The plastic crystal on mine got scuffed by its own box. A pusher on Adrian Barker's fell off when he put his hand in his pocket. They only had to make it just a little bit better, and everyone would have been very happy. As it is, we all feel we've been taken for a ride in terms of the price. I mean, the quality and build are so bad that the Swatch group really was having a laugh, weren't they...
Mine sits in its box nearly all the time. Occasionally I take it out, put it on, and say to myself, shall I wear it to go to the supermarket? And then I put it back again because it feels like it could get ruined if it comes into contact with literally anything....
Haha thanks. Yeah I'm pretty much in the same boat I've only worn it out a few times as I'm scared of breaking mine too
What I find interesting is how folks take criticism of a watch, which I confess can be over the top and have been guilty of myself, as a personal insult. I can appreciate the fact that your parents gifted you a watch while disliking it, no? I guess we all get emotionally invested in our watches and maybe that’s the problem.
First of all I would be over the moon to receive that as a gift. I like swatch myself. What about brands like tag? I really don't get why they get a lot of hate I really don't.
Sometimes, IMO, I think in modern culture we confuse criticisms with hate. Not all the time, but especially in recent times any criticism is translated as a personal attack.
Which isn't true. Open dialogue is necessary for a healthy society.
That being said, I would agree that in any niche or enthusiast community there is always those brands the talking heads tells us we need to hate on. And those same heads tells us we need to adore and chase after certain brands (which coincidentally also happen to be the same brands giving kickbacks to those heads.....looking at you Hodinkee).
Brands that come to mind: Tag, Invicta, anything from Ali, etc.
My biggest gripe with the Swatch, especially the Blancpain collab, is that it is marketed as "eco" friendly, yet it is a 100% disposable movement.
Yes the NH35 is also disposable, but they can be worked on and fixed, so long as they aren't dropped onto concrete from 6'. Yet the Sistem movements, even with all its cool tech, are SPECIFICALLY designed to be landfill material should it break. And if you are out of warranty, you now have a $400US paper weight.
Interesting. Reminds me of being young and embarrassed about some of the music I liked. I guess we can stop caring about what other people think about our taste and get to genuinely enjoy what we like…or we don’t.
First of all I would be over the moon to receive that as a gift. I like swatch myself. What about brands like tag? I really don't get why they get a lot of hate I really don't.
When Tag started making weird designs back in the late 80 and 90 and then lied about the 1887 movement, that’s when people started to say F them.
Who cares what other's think. The Moonswatch are fun watches. This hobby offers something for everyone. I own watches that have cost me over $1k but I get just as much enjoyment from a few Fossil and Skagen in my collection.
What I find interesting is how folks take criticism of a watch, which I confess can be over the top and have been guilty of myself, as a personal insult. I can appreciate the fact that your parents gifted you a watch while disliking it, no? I guess we all get emotionally invested in our watches and maybe that’s the problem.
Ir's not so much the criricisms that people take as personal attacks but the ad hominem comments that I think get to folks. Not content with just saying the moonswatch is not worth the money, I've sèen comments like "there's a sucker born everyday". By implicarion, people who bought it are suckers. I've seen comments that question a person's taste by choosing this watch or that watch. So yeah I don't blame those who take otherwise valid criticisms as fighting words. Criticisms shouldn't excuse judgement of the person.
This strap looks great, what is the reference?
What I find interesting is how folks take criticism of a watch, which I confess can be over the top and have been guilty of myself, as a personal insult. I can appreciate the fact that your parents gifted you a watch while disliking it, no? I guess we all get emotionally invested in our watches and maybe that’s the problem.
100% I maybe be a proud owner of it, but I'm also a proud critic of it. I'm not discouraging criticism (quite the opposite in fact), only that people should be able to acknowledge criticism of their watch and enjoy the watch anyway
This strap looks great, what is the reference?
Thanks! Its the Mission to Saturn moonswatch. As for the strap I just happened to have it lying around and thought it would match which imo it really does