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I wanted to get everyone’s thoughts on this. I am eyeing this new GMT from Tudor. Personal preference. I admit the new BB Pro GMT 39mm is also amazing. Here is the question/hesitation: I want to believe Tudor has resolved the date wheel issue that plagues almost all prior BB GMTs. However, I just have a funny feeling I am wrong. Thoughts on whether Tudor has fixed this? Any inside knowledge or wisdom from ADs? Thanks!
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I don't know if they fixed the problem, but there are certainly fewer people talking about it than there were a couple of years ago, so maybe/probably...
I like the 58 sizing, although the fact that it's 14mm thick makes it less compelling, but I'm with you on preferring this overall design. It's just flashy enough...
I absolutely love the way it looks. One beef that I have with it is a 1100 CHF difference between the bracelet and strap versions. I know the gold links aren't solid gold, which leaves PVD or goldcap. If PVD, it's an outrageous cash grab. If goldcap, less of a cash grab, but still a rip-off, which cannot be justified by cost of materials or craftsmanship - mind you, brushing a thin sheet of gold that's been machine-welded to a steel base isn't exactly as hard as getting the finishing of pure steel right, as gold is far, far easier to work in.
Only Tudor knows but I found this https://millenarywatches.com/tudor-gmt-date-wheel-issue/ I also really like this watch but a buddy of mine pointed out the amount of snowflake hands being too much and I'm not convinced yet he's wrong.
I wish Tudor would use ceramic bezels...yes, I understand that's a Rolex differentiator, but if micro brands can do it, Tudor should. It's not like Rolex would be impacted at all.
If you are after a GMT with True / Traveler function, this is the best option out there in its price range. I have the all-stainless Pepsi version on bracelet and I can't say enough good things. It's a little chunky due to its thickness but I got used to it quickly. I used to hate the snowflake hands but they are very easy to read at quick glance. The snowflake at the very tip of the GMT hand is one of my favorite attributes of this watch for that reason. Tudor changed that on the BB GMT Pro. One gripe about this new silver and gold edition is that the hands are all gold. On the all-stainless version, the GMT hand is red which is less confusing at quick glance. I use the GMT complication everyday at work. Other people may not be concerned about such things.
I was in the same boat as you on the date wheel issue. I read the millenarywatches post cited above and many more and the consensus "opinion" is that the issue was fixed sometime in 2020 or 2021 (the general "opinion" was that while the original fix didn't work resulting in repeat date wheel issues after servicing, the second fix they come up with did).
It would be infinitely preferable if Tudor would just admit the issue and tell us whether and when it was fixed so we would know one way or another BUT I guess they prefer not having to recall all the old stock sitting on AD shelves and instead just fix those that come in for service.
I ended up buying the GMT in 2022 but from an AD so I could get the full 5 year warranty and waited for a bracelet version to come in instead of buying the leather or Nato strap ones they had in the store in the hope of avoiding getting an older built watch. So no trying to save a little money by buying used or grey market for me.
FYI, I LOVE the GMT. It's perfect for me because I really wanted the aluminum bezel and smaller loom plots because of the call out to the 60s-70s era GMTs (worn by some of the Apollo astronauts).
As I look at the watch on my wrist now 2 months in, no date wheel issue (knock on wood). Also, I hope and believe that Tudor would still fix the date wheel issue without charge even after the warranty period (assuming you bought it from an AD with the warranty or with proper chain of title to someone who did).
I was in the same boat as you on the date wheel issue. I read the millenarywatches post cited above and many more and the consensus "opinion" is that the issue was fixed sometime in 2020 or 2021 (the general "opinion" was that while the original fix didn't work resulting in repeat date wheel issues after servicing, the second fix they come up with did).
It would be infinitely preferable if Tudor would just admit the issue and tell us whether and when it was fixed so we would know one way or another BUT I guess they prefer not having to recall all the old stock sitting on AD shelves and instead just fix those that come in for service.
I ended up buying the GMT in 2022 but from an AD so I could get the full 5 year warranty and waited for a bracelet version to come in instead of buying the leather or Nato strap ones they had in the store in the hope of avoiding getting an older built watch. So no trying to save a little money by buying used or grey market for me.
FYI, I LOVE the GMT. It's perfect for me because I really wanted the aluminum bezel and smaller loom plots because of the call out to the 60s-70s era GMTs (worn by some of the Apollo astronauts).
As I look at the watch on my wrist now 2 months in, no date wheel issue (knock on wood). Also, I hope and believe that Tudor would still fix the date wheel issue without charge even after the warranty period (assuming you bought it from an AD with the warranty or with proper chain of title to someone who did).
Very helpful. Thank you. I may end up going same route, trusting I will not get a lemon 🍋 and going AD route with 5-year warranty for peace of mind.
Love the overall look of the watch - very striking but I have to say I'm not too crazy about the hands. Other than that though, shes a beauty.
This is a great watch. It is a good choice also I haven't heard anything about issue recently
I wish Tudor would use ceramic bezels...yes, I understand that's a Rolex differentiator, but if micro brands can do it, Tudor should. It's not like Rolex would be impacted at all.
Agree. You can go on AliX today and find sub $100 watches with ceramic bezels. It’s not a differentiator, so unless it’s meant to achieve a particular stylistic choice (i.e. aluminum looks more vintage and less bling) it’s just cheap to not have a ceramic insert. ESPECIALLY on a piece like this!
I think GMTs are very useful. I use my GS GMT as a travel watch and its a type where I don’t prefer automatics. However, this is a nice one for an auto. Enjoy the choice.
It’s supposedly 14.6 mm thick. That is just bloody thick.
If you are after a GMT with True / Traveler function, this is the best option out there in its price range. I have the all-stainless Pepsi version on bracelet and I can't say enough good things. It's a little chunky due to its thickness but I got used to it quickly. I used to hate the snowflake hands but they are very easy to read at quick glance. The snowflake at the very tip of the GMT hand is one of my favorite attributes of this watch for that reason. Tudor changed that on the BB GMT Pro. One gripe about this new silver and gold edition is that the hands are all gold. On the all-stainless version, the GMT hand is red which is less confusing at quick glance. I use the GMT complication everyday at work. Other people may not be concerned about such things.
I've been looking at the Pepsi GMT for a while now. Looks like a great watch!
For me personally both are too thick. But based on esthetics, I have to say this over the Pro, no question. I believe, we will see more and more two tone watches and this one is gorgeous :)
Sorry can't speack to the date wheel issue haha
Dumb question... Is the new GMT black-over-red or dark navy-over-red?