why doesn't Grand Seiko do complications?

For such a technically advanced company , why don't they do annual calendars , perpetual calendars, moonphase? I have only seen a double tourbillon recently which won a gran prix. Anyone knows ?

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I was talking to a sales rep the GS boutique near me about this. I feel like they would slay at doing a moonphase, I can only imagine the how detailed and finely finished it would be! 

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I totally agree and I still don't get it why aren't they releasing a sports watch. They are sitting on such a nice case model . Sbgv245j - slap it with a spring drive with a secy dial, add a nice rubber strap .here u have it 

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I believe there are very complicated Credor watches which also belongs to Seiko. See this one for example

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-the-seiko-credor-minute-repeater-a-horological-m

Edit: That is to say, they are sold under a different brand.

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Dumont

I totally agree and I still don't get it why aren't they releasing a sports watch. They are sitting on such a nice case model . Sbgv245j - slap it with a spring drive with a secy dial, add a nice rubber strap .here u have it 

They have a full range of sports watches. They are not getting much media coverage, but they are well distributed.

https://www.grand-seiko.com/ca-en/collections/sport

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Could it have something to do with their spring drive technology?

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Dumont

I totally agree and I still don't get it why aren't they releasing a sports watch. They are sitting on such a nice case model . Sbgv245j - slap it with a spring drive with a secy dial, add a nice rubber strap .here u have it 

I'm not sure what you're getting at. They have a whole Sport Collection. And the Heritage Collection is sporty-everyday, which I think is their sweet spot. 

I don't know why they don't make grand complications, except that they say of themselves that they set out to make "practical" watches. "Every facet of the case, hands and the indexes is designed to reflect even the smallest ray of light, creating a crisp, clear, unique aesthetic that says 'This is Grand Seiko, the ultimate practical watch.'" It doesn't fit their self-defined brand image. You could equally ask the question why they should. 

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That's actually a very good question. The lack of grand complications is certainly not due to a lack of technical expertise so it only leave that it's due to a deliberate decision from GS.

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Well there’s this:

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https://www.grand-seiko.com/nl-en/news/20220330-1

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MegaBob

I believe there are very complicated Credor watches which also belongs to Seiko. See this one for example

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-the-seiko-credor-minute-repeater-a-horological-m

Edit: That is to say, they are sold under a different brand.

This is it. Complications don't fit Seiko's "grammar of design". It's Credor that covers the artisan and complicated watches. 

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+1 on the Credor vs GS positioning.

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I guess because they don't need to and it doesn't fit their design language, style and niche. No idea for sure, but what they do, they do exceptionally well and I for one am in love with Grand Seiko ❤

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lphuberdeau

They have a full range of sports watches. They are not getting much media coverage, but they are well distributed.

https://www.grand-seiko.com/ca-en/collections/sport

They all look like subs or version of subs . They need a  calling card. Smth that doesn't look like anything else 

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Catskinner

That's actually a very good question. The lack of grand complications is certainly not due to a lack of technical expertise so it only leave that it's due to a deliberate decision from GS.

I mean instead of making 100 limited editions maybe they could do an annual calendar at least 

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horologuitarist

Could it have something to do with their spring drive technology?

You have a point maybe the power reserve would go down substantially.  But then again , they do have amazing mechanical movements as well 

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wilfried

I'm not sure what you're getting at. They have a whole Sport Collection. And the Heritage Collection is sporty-everyday, which I think is their sweet spot. 

I don't know why they don't make grand complications, except that they say of themselves that they set out to make "practical" watches. "Every facet of the case, hands and the indexes is designed to reflect even the smallest ray of light, creating a crisp, clear, unique aesthetic that says 'This is Grand Seiko, the ultimate practical watch.'" It doesn't fit their self-defined brand image. You could equally ask the question why they should. 

I see your point but they did a tourbillon . I am sure they could pop out a nice annual or perpetual calendar in so many years.