why doesn't Grand Seiko do complications?

I was talking to a sales rep the GS boutique near me about this. I feel like they would slay at doing a moonphase, I can only imagine the how detailed and finely finished it would be! 

I totally agree and I still don't get it why aren't they releasing a sports watch. They are sitting on such a nice case model . Sbgv245j - slap it with a spring drive with a secy dial, add a nice rubber strap .here u have it 

They have a full range of sports watches. They are not getting much media coverage, but they are well distributed.

https://www.grand-seiko.com/ca-en/collections/sport

Could it have something to do with their spring drive technology?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. They have a whole Sport Collection. And the Heritage Collection is sporty-everyday, which I think is their sweet spot. 

I don't know why they don't make grand complications, except that they say of themselves that they set out to make "practical" watches. "Every facet of the case, hands and the indexes is designed to reflect even the smallest ray of light, creating a crisp, clear, unique aesthetic that says 'This is Grand Seiko, the ultimate practical watch.'" It doesn't fit their self-defined brand image. You could equally ask the question why they should. 

That's actually a very good question. The lack of grand complications is certainly not due to a lack of technical expertise so it only leave that it's due to a deliberate decision from GS.

Well there’s this:

https://www.grand-seiko.com/nl-en/news/20220330-1

This is it. Complications don't fit Seiko's "grammar of design". It's Credor that covers the artisan and complicated watches. 

+1 on the Credor vs GS positioning.

I guess because they don't need to and it doesn't fit their design language, style and niche. No idea for sure, but what they do, they do exceptionally well and I for one am in love with Grand Seiko ❤

They all look like subs or version of subs . They need a  calling card. Smth that doesn't look like anything else 

I mean instead of making 100 limited editions maybe they could do an annual calendar at least 

You have a point maybe the power reserve would go down substantially.  But then again , they do have amazing mechanical movements as well 

I see your point but they did a tourbillon . I am sure they could pop out a nice annual or perpetual calendar in so many years. 

Interesting how this was released under Grand Seiko instead of Credor.

Seiko recently integrated Spring Drive into some watches. It won't be long until Grand Seiko inherits some aspects of Credor.

That's another problem. Giving the technology to a cheaper brand and making it accessible is an issue. They need to tighten up the brand 

As a GS fanatic, i do not see the issue + Am happy to see Seiko moving up to the premium market, they deserve it.

Literally opened this thread to mention this 😂

While it's interesting, so far it's a one off halo, and they say it will take them years to fulfill the 21 they've promised. We'll see if they ever expand to other grand complications, and whether they become anything more than tiny niche products they do to show off. 

And on a different note, I don't really care. First, I will never own one. Second, I appreciate Grand Seiko's ethos and design language as it is, focusing on practical, everyday watches with some flair. My SBGA413 fills that bill perfectly. Let Patek and Vacheron do the perpetual calendars and minute repeaters. IMO the innovation they do do is much more interesting and important. They don't get enough credit IMO for the 9SA5 movement, with like the second new escapement since the Swiss lever. 

It's a great movement but I have seen a lot of comments about the accuracy issues ((((

I like to think of it this way. When you have some of the best dials in the business. Why F it up! 

They exude Simple beauty and Excellence!

Grand Seiko "2000GT"

You can add complications to all of the below. But Why would you complicate a classic!

Seiko Presage "Mirai"

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