Are in house movements important?

Saw this in the unpopular opinions thread, and was curious as to thoughts. Do you like in house movements? Some are purpose built to add power reserve or fit a case architecture (Reverso/Shelton dials). Some are beautiful works of art. Do you care?
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Do I appreciate the craftsmanship put into some in house movements and the romance around it? For sure.

Do I consider it when buying a watch? Not really, if I’m being honest. I look at the movement and want to know whether it is reliable and robust, regardless if it’s in house or not.

Ultimately though, I don’t mind either way. It is not a determining factor in my buying process.

Some of them sure are pretty though!

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If you are a collector, part of the joy and satisfaction is to own various watches with their in-house movements. You get to appreciate each brand’s appeal and story.

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I prefer generic movements because they’re easier to service. With that said, I can appreciate in-house movements for what they are.

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I wouldn’t say I prefer an in-house movement. I do think it adds another layer to purchasing a certain watch. I get people who say it makes it harder to service since some parts may not be readily available. As always it depends what you are looking for.

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I’m digging all these “D” voters!

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Buying a luxury chronograph or another interesting complication, I'll take in-house. Buying a three hander with date, I'll take a third party movement.

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#ima_sketchy-dude @bulgarian

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I prefer generic movements, as I assume parts will be easier and cheaper to come by in the future and service costs thus be lower.

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Depends on why it's in-house.

If it does something unique that third party movements don't do, then I'm all for it.

Otherwise it's just more expensive with higher service costs and no real benefit.

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depends on price. If you're selling a homage, a microbrand under 3K pricing etc outsourced is perfectly fine. You charging more than 3K you be bringing in house to the party or no deal.

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In house, that's why I bought my Omega.

Seiko seem to know what they're doing too 😂👍

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I was thinking about my collection. Excluding my 3 in house Seikos and 3 in house Casios, I have the following:

Speedmaster - in house

Oris Cal 400 - in house

Longines Spirit Zulu - in house?

Ball Engineer - generic

PRX - generic

Hamilton Khaki - generic

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I have 4 Rolex, 1 Panerai, 1 Grand Seiko spring drive... Also a bunch of regular Seikos, G shocks, Reactor etc...

The Rolex movement is a huge part of what your paying the premium for, they are superior to ETA and sellita junk that feels cheap, winding feels cheap, they are light, and is not that accurate, not as smooth sweeping etc... Rolex movements are superior to regular Seiko or ETA movements, more robust and unbreakable, over engineered, tighter, denser, better finishing, better designed, last for generations, and way way more accurate like a couple seconds per week. Spring Drive is even crazier being about .5 second per month

Once you get into higher levels of movements, cheap generic ETA just doesn't cut it for me... Granted some watches you just like the look or whatever, but they will be 2nd or 3rd tier and usually a waste of money that you should have saved towards getting another Rolex or high end watch.

My advice is don't waste money collecting and hoarding shitters, just get a couple at most and then save until you can get a Rolex.

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Tobester_McDonkey

I have 4 Rolex, 1 Panerai, 1 Grand Seiko spring drive... Also a bunch of regular Seikos, G shocks, Reactor etc...

The Rolex movement is a huge part of what your paying the premium for, they are superior to ETA and sellita junk that feels cheap, winding feels cheap, they are light, and is not that accurate, not as smooth sweeping etc... Rolex movements are superior to regular Seiko or ETA movements, more robust and unbreakable, over engineered, tighter, denser, better finishing, better designed, last for generations, and way way more accurate like a couple seconds per week. Spring Drive is even crazier being about .5 second per month

Once you get into higher levels of movements, cheap generic ETA just doesn't cut it for me... Granted some watches you just like the look or whatever, but they will be 2nd or 3rd tier and usually a waste of money that you should have saved towards getting another Rolex or high end watch.

My advice is don't waste money collecting and hoarding shitters, just get a couple at most and then save until you can get a Rolex.

You can get a top tier decorated and modified COSC certified ETA or Selita. Not all generics are made the same.

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cornfedksboy

You can get a top tier decorated and modified COSC certified ETA or Selita. Not all generics are made the same.

I get that, and I know some higher grades are more accurate... But the foundation is still nowhere near Rolex quality, design and robustness, designed to run 200 years etc...

You can put cool rims, a body kit, a custom paint job and a tuning chip on a Hyundai and it's still a Hyundai