Help identifying...or.... How old is it?
Greetings to you watch nerds, thrill seekers and conversationalists all across the fruited plain and around the world! I come to you today in search of any Russophiles of the watch community for information on this piece. I know it's a Komanderskie, it's manual wind and that's about it. Would anyone know the model number and approximately how old it is? Many thanks in advance!
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A clear photo of the numbers near the six o'clock position of the dial and also a photo of the movement would help. It isn't so easy to date these but with better photos of those two items you can get a better idea of age.
Okay. Let me get the macro function up on my camera...
A clear photo of the numbers near the six o'clock position of the dial and also a photo of the movement would help. It isn't so easy to date these but with better photos of those two items you can get a better idea of age.
Without seeing the movement, that dial marking indicates a Soviet Era piece probably 1980's.
Without seeing the movement, that dial marking indicates a Soviet Era piece probably 1980's.
I'm not yanking the case back right now. With that 3AKA3 MO CCCP , it's obvious that it's Soviet era. Doesn't that mean it was purchased for the ministry of defence of the Soviet Union?
This thread is fascinating because it possibly challenges my assumption that Russian, nee Soviet, watches designed before the Bush era are utter time capsules with about zero changes whatsoever and that they are not like, say, a pair of Levi's where a cognoscenti can accurately date them based on minor changes throughout the years. Otherwise, I got nothing.
I'm not yanking the case back right now. With that 3AKA3 MO CCCP , it's obvious that it's Soviet era. Doesn't that mean it was purchased for the ministry of defence of the Soviet Union?
Maybe a casebook photo then?
It is important to note on these watches everything must be considered together as a whole when identifying them, or in this case trying to identify. A lot of parts get swapped and you can't always rely on just the dial to tell the story.
I have a pretty good Russian collection going, but I am no expert either.
Ok so this watch was not made for export out of Russia. That makes it possible that this watch was a military affiliated piece. Also, the very good condition of the piece would lead me to believe it wasn't worn much (never issued?).
Hopefully, there is someone on here that can tell you more because that's about all I got.
Ok so this watch was not made for export out of Russia. That makes it possible that this watch was a military affiliated piece. Also, the very good condition of the piece would lead me to believe it wasn't worn much (never issued?).
Hopefully, there is someone on here that can tell you more because that's about all I got.
Thank you very much, SurferJohn
Try Google images search.
I'm not yanking the case back right now. With that 3AKA3 MO CCCP , it's obvious that it's Soviet era. Doesn't that mean it was purchased for the ministry of defence of the Soviet Union?
It is! Заказ мо СССР means it's from special soviet army store. Basicly not for civilians
As previously mentioned "3AKA3 MO CCCP" identify watches manufactured for contracts from the ministry of defense of the Soviet union. However it does not necessarily mean that it's a Soviet era watch because a lot of goods, and not just watches, were still branded with CCCP for some time after the dissolution of the Soviet union. That was mostly due to still using old parts and assemblies from existing stocks. Therefore this watch is probably pre 1991-1992 and for sure was not assembled after the mid-end 90's when the situation started to stabilize in Russia.
The number on the back could be a model number. Classic Komandirskie models are still identified today with a 6 digit number, the first two are the case type and the following 4 are the dial/variant identification. No such combination can be found now on Meranom web site, so I may be wrong.
That is an interesting machine.
Correct me if am wrong, by the look of the case finish it stainless. That would make it unusual for a Komi to begin with. Most of them are brass with some kind of coating/plating and the chrome plate is quite shiny. If it is stainless you can tell this one was manufactured as a Komi because there is only one cut in the case to take the locating tab of the case back. Amphibian cases have two cuts 180 deg apart.
Out of curiosity, what is the lug width?
That is an interesting machine.
Correct me if am wrong, by the look of the case finish it stainless. That would make it unusual for a Komi to begin with. Most of them are brass with some kind of coating/plating and the chrome plate is quite shiny. If it is stainless you can tell this one was manufactured as a Komi because there is only one cut in the case to take the locating tab of the case back. Amphibian cases have two cuts 180 deg apart.
Out of curiosity, what is the lug width?
18mm
Without seeing the movement, that dial marking indicates a Soviet Era piece probably 1980's.
Here's the movement