Diver dilema

After a long research and asking for diferent types of dive watches with vintage looks and/or proportions I've found these to fit the bill almost perfectly, they are both new so I don't have to worry about the water resistance. The contenders are: Certina DS Action ETA Powermatic 80.611 movement 34.5mm case by 40mm lug to lug and 11.90mm thick 300 meters water resistant Unidireccional bezel with ceramic insert Aquastar Model 60 Re-edition La Joux Perret movement (Swiss copy of the Miyota 9015) 37mm case by 47mm lug to lug and 12.6mm thick 200 meters water resistant Bidireccional steel bezel Both have sapphire crystals and Superluminova. With  Certina I can go to a nearby city jewelry to try on but Aquastar would not be possible. I would like that you help me decide which to get in the future as a birthday present for myself. Cheers!
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I have no problem with a 34mm watch in general, but I don’t know how I’d feel about a dive watch that small. Without trying it on first, I don’t think I’d buy one at that seize.

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Just get the Casio Duro Marlin. Cheap and cheerful!

If I had to choose between the 2 here, I’d get the Certina. It’s available locally, you can try it on before you buy and you’ll be supporting local business (assuming they aren’t a big soulless chain store).

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weng_c

Just get the Casio Duro Marlin. Cheap and cheerful!

If I had to choose between the 2 here, I’d get the Certina. It’s available locally, you can try it on before you buy and you’ll be supporting local business (assuming they aren’t a big soulless chain store).

Not exactly a store with a soul either as one of the retailers is also a Rolex AD and the other while not a big chain they hace some stores in big cities, I would also like to add that I tried a Casio Duro and it was big, the watch was wearing me.

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Phimaux

Not exactly a store with a soul either as one of the retailers is also a Rolex AD and the other while not a big chain they hace some stores in big cities, I would also like to add that I tried a Casio Duro and it was big, the watch was wearing me.

Still good. Go try out the watch in person to decide. If you buy for the Rolex AD, you get a toe hold onto "the list" and before you know it, you'll be sharing a "I got the call" post here. 😜

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thekris

I have no problem with a 34mm watch in general, but I don’t know how I’d feel about a dive watch that small. Without trying it on first, I don’t think I’d buy one at that seize.

Well here are some photos of a 34mm Citizen dive watch

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And my friend Seestern 62MAS homage

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weng_c

Still good. Go try out the watch in person to decide. If you buy for the Rolex AD, you get a toe hold onto "the list" and before you know it, you'll be sharing a "I got the call" post here. 😜

Unfortunately not a fan of Rolex, there are yet to prove there are more than a status symbol. My father still remembers when he was in the Navy MP a lot of divers and naval infantry soldiers wore Rolex as reliable tool watches not something to brag about.

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34mm is too small and Certina looks just like any other watch. I would go with Aquastar if I were you. It has a proper size, more character and a just seems like a nicer watch overall.

Aquastar for the win 👌🏻

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watchfindsgermany

34mm is too small and Certina looks just like any other watch. I would go with Aquastar if I were you. It has a proper size, more character and a just seems like a nicer watch overall.

Aquastar for the win 👌🏻

There is always the Tissot Seastar 1000 which one millimeter bigger than Certina at 35.7mm, unfortunately I cannot be picky as having 15cm wrists doesn't give many options

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As someone with even smaller wrists than you I can recommend the Tissot Seastar. However, of the two you chose I went for the Certina - I feel like having the dial and the bezel on the Aquastar different colours might make it look smaller than it is - plus I'm a big fan of trying something on first!

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FeebleWrists

As someone with even smaller wrists than you I can recommend the Tissot Seastar. However, of the two you chose I went for the Certina - I feel like having the dial and the bezel on the Aquastar different colours might make it look smaller than it is - plus I'm a big fan of trying something on first!

I tried my friend Seestern 62MAS homage which is similar in size which you can see in a comment above

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The Certina for sure, I wouldn’t be to sure about the size as 34 seems a bit small but in the photos above it certainly looks bigger.

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I voted Certina for the Omega font bezel insert, with a doubt on the size though.

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Peter73

The Certina for sure, I wouldn’t be to sure about the size as 34 seems a bit small but in the photos above it certainly looks bigger.

There is also the Tissot Seastar 1000 which is a millimeter bigger in case and lug length, these been 35.7mm and 41mm

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Phimaux

There is also the Tissot Seastar 1000 which is a millimeter bigger in case and lug length, these been 35.7mm and 41mm

Size of the watch will be dictated by your wrist size in most cases, some people do like an oversized dive watch though so I guess it’s personal preference.

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Phimaux

Unfortunately not a fan of Rolex, there are yet to prove there are more than a status symbol. My father still remembers when he was in the Navy MP a lot of divers and naval infantry soldiers wore Rolex as reliable tool watches not something to brag about.

I would disagree with this statement. They have proven over the decades they are a reliable tool watch. Has the brand image change over the years because of social media? Yes, but that doesn’t change the fact they’re watches are workhorses and very reliable built to last.

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Because is quite big, the watch would be wearing me, anything above 37mm case feels like I'm compensating for something.

They look good and for what I hear are solid for the price, but does it have a warranty

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Phimaux

In the past yes, today I just see people in either social media or in the streets bragging about how they got a Rolex, how much money they have and how important they belive they are; right now Rolex is nothing but a status symbol they stop being tool watches years ago.

Would you use, if you had it, a submariner as your daily driver or just pull it out of the box for special occasions. May would just put it in a display box and not use it.

I think the perception has changed due to social media. With this flex culture, yes a lot of people want to show off and feel “special”. It’s their choice if that’s what they want to do. I can’t judge anyone on how they decide to live their life.

If I had the submariner, and it was my only watch, I would use it as my daily driver. For a year, my GMT BLNR was my daily driver until I started diversifying my collection. I wore it everywhere to do everything. 4yrs later, it’s still a part of my collection and love it because it’s rugged, and holds up. Im taking it with me on vacation to jump in the ocean and to do a bunch of other activities. I love that’s it’s not fragile like some other watches out there.

Yes, this generation wants to show off what they have but there is no denying Rolex has paved the way for alot of watch companies and there is no denying they made a huge impact on the watch industry.

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DH_NYC

I think the perception has changed due to social media. With this flex culture, yes a lot of people want to show off and feel “special”. It’s their choice if that’s what they want to do. I can’t judge anyone on how they decide to live their life.

If I had the submariner, and it was my only watch, I would use it as my daily driver. For a year, my GMT BLNR was my daily driver until I started diversifying my collection. I wore it everywhere to do everything. 4yrs later, it’s still a part of my collection and love it because it’s rugged, and holds up. Im taking it with me on vacation to jump in the ocean and to do a bunch of other activities. I love that’s it’s not fragile like some other watches out there.

Yes, this generation wants to show off what they have but there is no denying Rolex has paved the way for alot of watch companies and there is no denying they made a huge impact on the watch industry.

The only guy I know that he believes has a Rolex (is a fake) will use each and every opportunity he has to rub in your face that he has money (his father is the one it has) and he only uses it in social events where he can show off. All the while I also know a old man who has a day-date which you will not hear a word from him about his watch.

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Phimaux

The only guy I know that he believes has a Rolex (is a fake) will use each and every opportunity he has to rub in your face that he has money (his father is the one it has) and he only uses it in social events where he can show off. All the while I also know a old man who has a day-date which you will not hear a word from him about his watch.

Again, I’m not one to judge anyone, but seems like that person is looking to create a false illusion of his life. Unfortunately, social media has caused this flex culture. 4-5 yrs ago, that wasn’t the case.

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martin1111

Aquastar Model 60 Re-edition is powered by an automatic La Joux-Perret G100. No offence but LJP G100 isn't certainly copy of Miyota, easily available information is on Caliber Corner 🍻

Thanks for the information but in the last part there is an informative text saying this:

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Phimaux

Thanks for the information but in the last part there is an informative text saying this:

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I probably missed that, but now I'm confused because I remember approximately 10-minute video on youtube where a guy explained the differences between the movements and described how the LJP G100 was developed. He also explained detailed details such as the materials, the location of the various components in the movement and emphasized the reason why it was developed with the dimensions of the 2824. I was so impressed by the video that I have been wanting to own a watch with that movement ever since. But well, after all, maybe it's just a copy of Miyota anyway 🙄

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martin1111

I probably missed that, but now I'm confused because I remember approximately 10-minute video on youtube where a guy explained the differences between the movements and described how the LJP G100 was developed. He also explained detailed details such as the materials, the location of the various components in the movement and emphasized the reason why it was developed with the dimensions of the 2824. I was so impressed by the video that I have been wanting to own a watch with that movement ever since. But well, after all, maybe it's just a copy of Miyota anyway 🙄

Well a copy of the Miyota with the size of the 2824, this movement is intended to replace the ETA movement as Swatch Group decided to not provide movements to their competitors

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Phimaux

Well a copy of the Miyota with the size of the 2824, this movement is intended to replace the ETA movement as Swatch Group decided to not provide movements to their competitors

Interesting info, I think that I heard about that. I guess I'd must have forgotten about it 🍻

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Oseberg

I understand your inclination is towards a smaller case, but, for a very sensible price and coming from a really cool brand, I suggest you have a look at : https://www.scurfawatches.com/product/treasure-seeker-blue-dial/

The Scurfa brand is UK based which means a lot of import taxes and fees to get it to Europe and also is 41mm which would be too big for me

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I would choose Certina because of its movement, it looks more advanced to me for the price, with an antimagnetic Nivachron balance spring

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However they both look great, and I even like the design of Aquastar a bit more

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thekris

I have no problem with a 34mm watch in general, but I don’t know how I’d feel about a dive watch that small. Without trying it on first, I don’t think I’d buy one at that seize.

I would like to point out that the original Zodiac Sea Wolf from the 50s and 60s were 34mm or 35mm which would be more like a dress dive watch for people not used to the increase in size of the skin diver cases or Rolex Submariner lookalikes

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arquelius

I would choose Certina because of its movement, it looks more advanced to me for the price, with an antimagnetic Nivachron balance spring

Also easier to send to repair to Certina or Swatch Group. I look at Certina for that 50s Zodiac Sea Wolf size which they don't make anymore.

For Aquastar you need to buy a special tool to open the back, and even though the movement is a workhorse and easy to service not everyone has that tool

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arquelius

However they both look great, and I even like the design of Aquastar a bit more

I also like the design of the Aquastar, they could have gone for applied indices instead of printed Lume and also brighter Superluminova. I just wish more brands offered that same case design with similar size, unfortunately not a lot of options at least this one has some history going for it

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Phimaux

I would like to point out that the original Zodiac Sea Wolf from the 50s and 60s were 34mm or 35mm which would be more like a dress dive watch for people not used to the increase in size of the skin diver cases or Rolex Submariner lookalikes

Good point, I’m just not personally familiar with those vintage divers. I’m sure I’d get over it, but my first reaction was that it seemed small. That said, I’m fine with 34mm watches in general.