Its time to bring back Radium lume in watches.

In the 1930's Radium, the best watch dial lume technology was taken out of production because people where painting these on the dial markers and often licking the brushes or getting it on their skin and such as no caution was taken. In a watch, it emits alpha radiation at such a low level that its less dangerous than get a few minutes of sunshine. With modern manufacturing technology and a little common sense now that we know how to handle such materials, it is time for the radium dial to return. Tritium is half as bright is seven to 10 years, the best lumes on the market still do not keep a glow to 6 hours. Radium will glow and glow with out being charged. It has a half life os.1,600 years for radium-226. Time for Radium dials , hands, and markers to make a come back. Who will be the brave manufacturer to work with these materials in a safe way so we can all benefit.

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I hear radium suppositories are coming.back as well

The workers had to buried in lead-lined caskets

If radium becomes the standard cheap watches out of China will also start using it but they probably won't take the necessary precautions.

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Sure, let’s paint the dial with lead paint and perhaps an asbestos case while we are at it for good measure.

We’ve evolved since then and I cannot see any company being okay with this happening, especially given the history.

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I see a great potential for lead lined glass and depleted uranium cases.

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It's not the radium, modern phosphorus compounds don't last for centuries. There is no point using a higher radioactive emitter because the weak point has always been the other chemicals involved in the process (which is why no radium watches still actually glow).

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AllTheWatches
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Sure, let’s paint the dial with lead paint and perhaps an asbestos case while we are at it for good measure.

We’ve evolved since then and I cannot see any company being okay with this happening, especially given the history.

Yeah, asbestos is very safe and stable unless it’s disturbed and enclosed in a watch it only poses the risk for watchmaker when they service it. I would also say then it’s time to bring asbestos to watches somehow, f**k them rich toy makers who service our watches.

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Yup.

And I'm not for bringing back radium FYI, but there is A LOT of misinformation surrounding radiation. 99.9% will hear RADIATION and immediately think of Fallout Ghouls.....

Then immediately spend hours each day, holding a very powerful EMR emitting device to their head....😜

To the OP, yes it's a low level alpha, and yes your skin will block it. Alpha is only bad when ingested, basically it forms free radical, hydroxyls that start pulling apart stuff inside you. The problem is disposal and storage of unwanted stuff.

That and anytime RADIATION is said out loud the govt overreacts.

FYI, takes a surprising amount of exposure (not talking lethal dose 50 mind you or accident/incident) to just raise the stoichiometry of your blood to a level that is even noticeable by the world's best labs. And even then your talking a 1-5% increase in likelihood of cancer.

Basically what I'm trying to say, outside of actually catastrophic stuff (reactor meltdowns, wartime exposure, or terrorist incident), we should be more concerned about texting while driving, drunk driving, and heart health. Those numbers are depressing.

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Banning seat belts & airbags would make everyone drive safer, so less accidents.

I hear those "Craven A" cigarettes are actually good for your lungs too...

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AllTheWatches
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Sure, let’s paint the dial with lead paint and perhaps an asbestos case while we are at it for good measure.

We’ve evolved since then and I cannot see any company being okay with this happening, especially given the history.

Lead paint under the dial would be harmless, though I cannot think of any material advantage, not for asbestos, though both could be manufactured in safe ways that do not harm people, buts as I said, no advantage. Manufacturing techgnology has changed and we know how to properly handle these materials. Today we are being poisned by forever chemicals in our water, that my friend is a real danger as is para-estrogens causing sperm count drops in the global population among other many things. Given the hostory, I get it, but just like electricity burned down homes with aluminum wiringm we now use copper and adapted a safer way. There is a safe way to use Radium and that is just a fact. But I agree with you, the history makes to much fear. May be awhile before people get beyond this or another mildly radioactive element is marketed under a different name that works as well. Cheers.

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Catskinner

I see a great potential for lead lined glass and depleted uranium cases.

I was exposed to a lot of depleted uranium as I explored destroyed tanks and so many other chemicals, I am still somewhat healthy, but a lot of good young people that I served with died of cancer at a higher rate than the civillian population, some radio operators became sterile from standing or working near microwave antenmnas, others have what is called Gulf War syndrome - likely from all the chemicals. One vet I met with stares at walls for hours and is more comfortable that way. Ofcourse, many died and many are amputees, many are homeless even though they get checks, most of us have anxiety with some PTSD now over 20 years later. We where given vaccines that we did not know the purpose of, I suspect one was for Anthrax, that burned or made us temporarily sick. I am so blessed to be able to collect watches, have all my limbs, several TBIs, and am only a little touched with PTSD. My children are healthy. I did not have a G-Shock then, Now I do an love it. God bless all of you and the fanilies of those who also served, we know the cost is great. Now back to watches.

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Inkitatus

Banning seat belts & airbags would make everyone drive safer, so less accidents.

I hear those "Craven A" cigarettes are actually good for your lungs too...

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Ahh, this is far safer than bot wearing your seatbelt. Our society has because of media been moved like cattle into a fear based world. I can ride a motorcycle with no helmet, but must wear a seat belt in my very large truck with airbages, it does not make sense. Still , you are right lives are saved with this. The stickers all over my ladder do not make me any safer. I guess natural selection is always at work.

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It would take a company with a lot of money, as that is what really steers our government these days. The return for the cost would not be justified. Your right. Sad, as it could be perfectly safe if some properly.

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sagebrush

It's not the radium, modern phosphorus compounds don't last for centuries. There is no point using a higher radioactive emitter because the weak point has always been the other chemicals involved in the process (which is why no radium watches still actually glow).

Very good point. I have not looked at that chemistry, but your are right, those old dials no longer glow. Perhaps is pared with other chemicals that decay at slower rates...but nobody is going to pay for this research.

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For anyone interested in real world patina, check out Typsim Watches.

Gimmicky or not their lume is supposed to age in real time based on your wear pattern.

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OldTritium

Ahh, this is far safer than bot wearing your seatbelt. Our society has because of media been moved like cattle into a fear based world. I can ride a motorcycle with no helmet, but must wear a seat belt in my very large truck with airbages, it does not make sense. Still , you are right lives are saved with this. The stickers all over my ladder do not make me any safer. I guess natural selection is always at work.

Do envy you getting away with not wearing a lid, it's serious trouble here if caught. Shame, can't beat that feeling of freedom.

Ride safe and have fun mate 👍

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Tritium is radioactive and is used in watches. I assume it would be quite simple to use radium in the same way.

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cornfedksboy

Tritium is radioactive and is used in watches. I assume it would be quite simple to use radium in the same way.

great idea. It would stary bright as long as the phosperous holds up, I am not a chemist, but surely there is a way so that some of the phosperous could have an extra electron and decay into the form that would shed photons to replace the lower state phospeherous. Maybe I should learn some more chemistry, but vials sounds like a safe way to manufacture this like tritium currently is.

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OldTritium

great idea. It would stary bright as long as the phosperous holds up, I am not a chemist, but surely there is a way so that some of the phosperous could have an extra electron and decay into the form that would shed photons to replace the lower state phospeherous. Maybe I should learn some more chemistry, but vials sounds like a safe way to manufacture this like tritium currently is.

Well, I am a chemist and I’m not exactly sure how this would work. Lol