Wearing Vostok watches

I know this issue has come up before but I am still trying to work out the elements of it. The issue is this: given the current situation, is it ethically/morally right to wear the Vostok watches that you own? It seems like a simple question but I am not sure that it is...

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Why wouldn't it be? I don't think anyone assumes people wearing Vostok watches are in support of the war just because of their watch.

If you own a Vostok watch wear it, and enjoy it. Vostok doesn't make royalties every time you wear the watch, and whatever money your watch purchase put into the Russian Federation's coffers is long since spent. 

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Just because you like russian watches, it doesn`t mean that you like russian politics.

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It's fine. It's not like you were selling arms to the Russians or buying oil from them. There's a really good chance you bought it from some random person trying to run their own business or make a few bucks.  

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Ethics and morals are different, albeit similar, concepts. I believe that you are describing a moral dilemma.

In the sense of consumer goods a moral purchase is one that arguably increases the "good" or has a neutral effect. An immoral purchase would be one that would lead to a decrease in the "good."  A non-controversial choice, for example, would be to not buy rhinoceros horn products because such a purchase would necessarily lead to the depletion of rhinos (assuming that the depletion of rhinos is a bad thing).

When we are talking about past purchases, historical purchases, the choice to display those purchases is less a moral decision (is this right?) than one based on appearances (how does this make me look?). Very few people will ever notice what watch you wear. Fewer still will have an opinion about its manufacturer. Your worry about their perception of you and your moral code is misplaced. Using or wearing a consumer good is not the tacit approval of the policies and actions of the government of the country where it was produced. If that were true very few of us would use half or more of the products that we own.

The only place where I might hesitate would involve a Komandirskie. Those watches are designed to celebrate the prowess of the various branches of the Russian military. They are visually interesting and highly collectable. To wear one today, with the immediate past performance of the Russian military, would be to necessarily wear it ironically. Irony is hard to pull off with just a watch on your wrist.

I own many Soviet era watches, most of which I have bought from Ukraine. I will wear them without fear of approbation. I won't buy a new Russian watch for now.

Later tonight, I will have a glass of Spanish wine and listen to a composition by Dmitri Shostakovich. He was a member of the Supreme Soviet for years. His politics no longer matter, only the music.

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easy call for me, I dont like them so wouldnt matter where they were made. I could NEVER get into them, so I get to avoid all moral dilemmas.  

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BRSEvolve

easy call for me, I dont like them so wouldnt matter where they were made. I could NEVER get into them, so I get to avoid all moral dilemmas.  

er...So in what way is that related to the question?

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Vladimir Putin and his cronies aren't the Russian people. It blows my mind that people think like this.

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Munky1

er...So in what way is that related to the question?

That by not owning any I'm free of the situation you're experiencing.  

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dubby_broccoli

Vladimir Putin and his cronies aren't the Russian people. It blows my mind that people think like this.

I don't know anyone who thinks like this.

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To correlate watch ownership with their particular country of manufacture, and then decide wether to wear it or not,  based on historical or current sinister machinations of that country, would mean you would be hard pushed to wear one at all. Every so called modern industrial nation in the world which produces watches,  has skeletons in their cupboard somewhere along the line. I won’t name them but come on, some of the biggest war crime committing nations in the world now produce the most talked about and purchased watches in the world. (And cars for that matter)

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I don’t currently have a Vostok in my collection, but I have had one in the past. If I saw someone wearing a Vostok I certainly would not conclude they support the actions in the Ukraine, any more than I would make negative associations about someone wearing a Flieger. However, if I did have one, I personally would pack it away for a bit. 

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I guess owning anything made in China would be the same then. Many of us in the west have no real idea of the authoritarian nature of the CCP and their human rights violations. But because it’s not front and centre in our consciousness 24/7, we all buy Chinese whether we like it or not. I don’t see how wearing a Vostok is any different. It wasn’t made by Putin himself, it was made by everyday people like you and me, trying to get on with their lives. 90% shouldn’t be hated for the actions of 10% rotten apples. Yes, buying Russian helps feed the “special operation”, but for it to be even remotely relevant we’re talking a LOT of watches.