Ademars Piguet Intellectual Property Suit...
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Jason
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Sorry that you're caught up in it.
It's not the first affordable wandering hour watch, nor the first that really cadged from AP's designs. I wonder what triggered the attorneys on this one...
AP patented this in 1991. That's 33 years. Most parents only last 20. 🤷
The kickstarter got removed from public viewing, but we're still getting messages from the group.
Meh, reading the claim from your screenshot I wonder if it holds up. Seems more a "big boy scaring a little boy" situation. Guess they employ the tactic trying to scare them and if it works its an easy win. Bit of a sleazy tactic by AP.
I wonder if there is a patent because that 120 degree scale with three rotating discs is how you make a wandering hour dial, because maths! (And geometry). A central second hand is also ubiquitous. Numerous brands do the same without issue. (Olto-8, uhrwerk, atowak, ublast, technotempo and many many more.)
To me it's comparable to saying you have the patent to a 12 hour watchdial indicated by markers with three central hands for the hours, minutes and seconds... I hope it gets resolved quickly and you can enjoy your watch soon!
Is it this watch? https://mandetbrote.com
Meh, reading the claim from your screenshot I wonder if it holds up. Seems more a "big boy scaring a little boy" situation. Guess they employ the tactic trying to scare them and if it works its an easy win. Bit of a sleazy tactic by AP.
I wonder if there is a patent because that 120 degree scale with three rotating discs is how you make a wandering hour dial, because maths! (And geometry). A central second hand is also ubiquitous. Numerous brands do the same without issue. (Olto-8, uhrwerk, atowak, ublast, technotempo and many many more.)
To me it's comparable to saying you have the patent to a 12 hour watchdial indicated by markers with three central hands for the hours, minutes and seconds... I hope it gets resolved quickly and you can enjoy your watch soon!
Yeah, we'll see if Kickstarter feels that way, I suppose.
Is it this watch? https://mandetbrote.com
Yep, that's the one.
Looks like their site is still taking pre-orders...hmm.
Here is the AP and the other (homage?)
AP Starwheel:
Kickstarter:
Here is the AP and the other (homage?)
AP Starwheel:
Kickstarter:
Wow, that's closer than I thought. I can see why AP reacted.
Wow.... Look out Pagani
Meh, reading the claim from your screenshot I wonder if it holds up. Seems more a "big boy scaring a little boy" situation. Guess they employ the tactic trying to scare them and if it works its an easy win. Bit of a sleazy tactic by AP.
I wonder if there is a patent because that 120 degree scale with three rotating discs is how you make a wandering hour dial, because maths! (And geometry). A central second hand is also ubiquitous. Numerous brands do the same without issue. (Olto-8, uhrwerk, atowak, ublast, technotempo and many many more.)
To me it's comparable to saying you have the patent to a 12 hour watchdial indicated by markers with three central hands for the hours, minutes and seconds... I hope it gets resolved quickly and you can enjoy your watch soon!
You bring up some excellent points..
Math, physics, and geometry being what they are, very few ways to get the job done..just saying.
Can you blame them? Let me guess where they will be manufactured...
Can you blame them? Let me guess where they will be manufactured...
I don't particularly blame AP, but I did like the idea of throwing a wandering hour watch into my collection for $200 rather than $67,000. :P
Bummer. Big companies will protect themselves and have the money to do it...
I don't particularly blame AP, but I did like the idea of throwing a wandering hour watch into my collection for $200 rather than $67,000. :P
Yeah, I like the idea too (and of course) the business model for Swiss Made watches is outrageous (cost of manufacture/marketing/overhead/RRP etc.) But, if a team of people come up with a concept and put forth the engineering expertise to develop,manufacture and market a watch. That IP (intellectual property) should be respected. AND the guy that forks over the money to spend $67K should be able to buy into that exclusivity - versus someone who "flexes" a knock-off on Instagram... AND a group of Kickstarters are blatantly ripping-off the original designers...