Moser accuracy

Wow that's super ossum piece bro 👊😎

Don't believe they are COSC certified. That would not keep me from buying. At all.

It tested out at 7sd avg what do you think?

Agree its killer only issue this accuracy 7s/d

+ Or -?

Moser are great watches. 7s/d is not a deal breaker in my opinion. Go for it!

What do you think about this?

I wouldn’t have a problem moving forward with it. The Moser you are looking at is a limited edition 40mm in titanium limited to 100 i believe. This also has the 3D lume for the indices. Very unique Pioneer from 2022 that i have looked at myself to purchase.

If it puts a smile on your face and purchasing from a reputable dealer. I say go for it!

I'd be fine with it.

FWIW I own this watch & get + 4.2s. Not as good as a couple other watches I have but good enough, considering how great it wears feels & looks.

I don't think they are that accurate in general. I wouldn't accept anything more than +10s or - 5s. The reason they aren't super accurate is partly because they use 21,600 bpm movements which aids service time but takes away from accuracy somewhat.

I also don't think accuracy is a massive concern for them, they prioritise other things it seems.

WTF is this relatively new to watch sites expectation that every watch needs to be spot on or within COSC spec even when it is not a chronometer?Buying a timegrapher seems to have empowered a whole lot of newbies to demand expectations that are unreasonable.

If I subjected all the watches I have acquired over the years to the scrutiny that some here do I would probably have no watches at all.

Has the ability to enjoy the hobby degenerated to the level that even "affordables" meet the stringent demands of perfection?

WT(actual)F?

My Heritage Centre Seconds has that movement, I'd go for it. It operates at 3hz instead of 4, has a 72 hour power reserve, and you can dress that one up or down. I would jump all over it if I had the funds.

Yes, once upon a time only a few really super nerdy dudes on YouTube had timegraphers. Now everyone has one and it's getting a bit silly. It seems to have unlocked the idea that automatic watches are perfect, and any variation is some kind of terrible error.

Once upon a time nobody on YouTube had timegraphers because there was no YouTube. But you could make a pretty close measurement by setting to a reference time, keeping wound for a month, and doing a back of envelope calculation. It’s reasonably good to +/- 50-100 ms per day. Anyway, that’s still the way I do it. A few things I’ve learned doing so - (1) mosers are good, but not as good as some; (2) they’re distinctly awesome so who cares, predicated on (3) them not being so out of whack that you need to reset them more than every 2 weeks or less, which they will not be

You have to question a Moser?

It depend on why you wear a watch. Some because it is a piece of jewelery, for me it is to tell time and good looking. So it need to be accurate between -7 to +7 spd. I have a lot of Seiko, Selita movements, where I can regulated it my self. A watch cost 200 to 2000 USD, now running +5 to -5 spd.

So when a Monta, with Selita movement, which run -10 to -20 spd, and I cant regulated it because I cannot find tool to open the case back. It is put in the watchbox.

I have Nomos with run +5 to +15 spd, but I was not ready to open the expensive watch 🤒. Oris run -3 to -1 spd.

So if you have a tolerance of -7 to +7 for your watch, Moser is ok.

This is my experience with the HMC200. These are the numbers I observed after a service at the manufacture.

Accuracy is a little overrated. The manufacturer advertise the accuracy of the movement. If your ok with that, the price, looks, functionality, finish etc then buy the watch. Two of the same watches, side by side will show different levels of accuracy on a timegraph. A high finish expensive watch can show less accuracy than a Seiko that's worth a fraction of the price. Don't get hung up too much on accuracy. As long as it's within spec and you're happy to buy the watch because you like it, so be it.

Thanks everyone for your input! I pulled the trigger and will pick up the watch tomorrow. Unfortunate for some negative comments here, that said, I didn't receive one comment that pushed me away from the watch.

quick update, when I picked up the watch, I got to meet Tim Mosso, he is the best!