Sellers remorse post (again)

I know this is a theme that keeps on coming, and for a good reason: sellers remorse.

If you are into anything collecting, chances are you will sell one "something" that later you regret you did. I have sold quite a lot of watches and while a couple I kind of wished I have kept, only one is the one I truly miss and wish I didn't sell.

The Glycine Airman Double Twelve in black, the classic iteration in 40mm.

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Actually, I sold it to fund the Glycine Airman Base 22 as I really wanted to have a GMT hand in a watch. And don't get me wrong, the Base 22 is a great watch, but it's a different beast that does not cover the use I made of the Double Twelve.

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Curiously, the Double Twelve is a great adventure mountaineering watch as you can easily carry local and solar time to help in orientation, while being slim and easy to read.

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So, back to business. Sellers remorse. I find, watching old pictures, how beautiful the double twelve is, and now I find that I want to get it back and there's no one to be found. Yes, we think that we can sell and if sellers remorse then buy it again, but that's not always the case, specially with rare kind of vintage watches. I will keep trying, but the black version is hard or near impossible to find in a reasonably good condition.

That's how we learn. Sometimes the better is the enemy of the good. In watches, sometimes, this is true. I thought the Base 22 was a better option, but the Double Twelve was, for me, good enough.

Have you had similar experiences of really wanting back a watch that seems to not exist for sale in any way anymore?

Yup, quite a few..

Base 22, X-wind automatic chronograph, Aquis, several Turtles, SPB147, Murph, Alpinist..馃槶

Inkitatus

Yup, quite a few..

Base 22, X-wind automatic chronograph, Aquis, several Turtles, SPB147, Murph, Alpinist..馃槶

Wow, quite a list. The Base 22 seems to be second hand in some places. Actually, I don't know if I will keep it should I find the Double Twelve, so let's stay in touch just in case. I also might sell the SARB 017 Alpinist. Not sure if that's the one you're missing.

A similar experience, also with an Airman funnily enough.

Years ago a seller in the UK was dumping their Glycine stock - it was sometime before the Invicta Grp bought the brand I think.

Anyway, I wanted the DC-4:

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But by the time I mucked about on the website they'd sold out of the DC-4 so I decided to buy the 'Noon' instead:

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But as much as I like cream / white / silver dials I find that I don't wear them often and every time I did wear it, all I saw was a second choice and that it wasn't the watch I actually wanted. First and last time I ever substituted. Turns out near enough isn't good enough!

I do like the Airman though, particularly in Purist format. In fact I've been toying with picking up 'The Chief' for a while now.

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Hodonkee

A similar experience, also with an Airman funnily enough.

Years ago a seller in the UK was dumping their Glycine stock - it was sometime before the Invicta Grp bought the brand I think.

Anyway, I wanted the DC-4:

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But by the time I mucked about on the website they'd sold out of the DC-4 so I decided to buy the 'Noon' instead:

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But as much as I like cream / white / silver dials I find that I don't wear them often and every time I did wear it, all I saw was a second choice and that it wasn't the watch I actually wanted. First and last time I ever substituted. Turns out near enough isn't good enough!

I do like the Airman though, particularly in Purist format. In fact I've been toying with picking up 'The Chief' for a while now.

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I like the "The Chief" a lot. The only thing holding me back is the lack of water resistance, but a beautiful looking watch. I like the Double Twelve with the 20 ATM water resistance :D

Yeah, WR is the Airmans major flaw.

I've got GADA covered by other watches so I can live with it, but that's also the reason I haven't pulled the trigger on The Chief - no matter how much I try I can't justify another black dialled tool watch 鈥 and technically the dial is grey but even that distinction doesn't get it over the line!

I need to do some selling before I do more buying.

What I do to avoid sellers remorse is tuck a watch I'm thinking of selling away for about six months. Then I wear it and see if I reconnect. If not, it goes. If I do reconnect with it I'll repeat the process for a few more months. It's slow but it works, at least for me.

The Double 12 is sought after on the secondary market, hey? And often the seller is asking unrealistic money for them. Same goes for the DC-4, which is often nudging $2K in my currency (Australia). I really like Glycine and think they are one of the few watches from a Swiss legacy brand that you can actually call inexpensive in todays market - but I won't pay $2K for one.

Hodonkee

Yeah, WR is the Airmans major flaw.

I've got GADA covered by other watches so I can live with it, but that's also the reason I haven't pulled the trigger on The Chief - no matter how much I try I can't justify another black dialled tool watch 鈥 and technically the dial is grey but even that distinction doesn't get it over the line!

I need to do some selling before I do more buying.

What I do to avoid sellers remorse is tuck a watch I'm thinking of selling away for about six months. Then I wear it and see if I reconnect. If not, it goes. If I do reconnect with it I'll repeat the process for a few more months. It's slow but it works, at least for me.

The Double 12 is sought after on the secondary market, hey? And often the seller is asking unrealistic money for them. Same goes for the DC-4, which is often nudging $2K in my currency (Australia). I really like Glycine and think they are one of the few watches from a Swiss legacy brand that you can actually call inexpensive in todays market - but I won't pay $2K for one.

Yes, some prices are just insane, but I simply fail to find good condition black dial ones. There's one in Australia, by the way, but in poor condition. I even considered getting that one as the dial is ok, and get a blue or white one that is on sale and replace the dial. But that would set me back way too much money I can justify. I, too, try to have all my watches to be GADA and many are black dialed.

My 14060 which I bought new in 2005. Sold it for zero good reasons in 2014. I thought it was A) too common, and B) the bracelet was crap. Both are true, but I should have A) not cared and B) tossed a NATO strap on the watch and kept that aluminum-bezeled beauty.

heirspring

My 14060 which I bought new in 2005. Sold it for zero good reasons in 2014. I thought it was A) too common, and B) the bracelet was crap. Both are true, but I should have A) not cared and B) tossed a NATO strap on the watch and kept that aluminum-bezeled beauty.

Wow. Sorry to hear that. I think that watch is beautiful. I almost got the chance to try one, but finally wasn't possible. I'm not much into submariners, but I admit that one is nice. I know the prices are high, but maybe you can get it back in the future.

marioap

Wow. Sorry to hear that. I think that watch is beautiful. I almost got the chance to try one, but finally wasn't possible. I'm not much into submariners, but I admit that one is nice. I know the prices are high, but maybe you can get it back in the future.

The plan is to pick up the new Tudor Black Bay Monochrome, which came to the rescue out of nowhere. 馃檪 But yeah, miss my old watch for sure.

heirspring

The plan is to pick up the new Tudor Black Bay Monochrome, which came to the rescue out of nowhere. 馃檪 But yeah, miss my old watch for sure.

Not a bad solution. Also, a more reasonable pricing there :)

marioap

Not a bad solution. Also, a more reasonable pricing there :)

Yep, although more expensive than my 14060 was at the time of purchase, haha! (Not accounting for inflation.) But it's got the right look that I want and 2024 Tudor bracelets are miles ahead of 2004 Rolex ones. 馃檪

heirspring

Yep, although more expensive than my 14060 was at the time of purchase, haha! (Not accounting for inflation.) But it's got the right look that I want and 2024 Tudor bracelets are miles ahead of 2004 Rolex ones. 馃檪

Yes, Tudor bracelets are awesome. I have the Ranger, and it is great although a modern Rolex bracelet, like the one in the modern Explorer is, although with "only" the easy link extension, superior. But yes, I tried an older Explorer bracelet and didn't feel like it belonged to that watch, although it did.

heirspring

My 14060 which I bought new in 2005. Sold it for zero good reasons in 2014. I thought it was A) too common, and B) the bracelet was crap. Both are true, but I should have A) not cared and B) tossed a NATO strap on the watch and kept that aluminum-bezeled beauty.

I actually love Rolex bracelets from that era!

Sure, they feel a little janky and jangly compared to what they produce these days but they have so much charm.

Give me a high quality bracelet with folded end-links and a pressed clasp over solid and milled and I'm a happy man!

I still prefer aluminium inserts and acrylic crystals too. It's not some Luddite sense of 'things were better 'cause they're from yesteryear' so much as it's a preference for the aesthetics and the way they feel on the wrist.

I guess the 14060 is from that period where 80% of today's engineering standards met 80% of the materials that've now been superceded - which is pretty good imo. No wonder they're still so popular and sought-after.

All that said, I completely agree that Tudor bracelets are sensational these days.

Hodonkee

I actually love Rolex bracelets from that era!

Sure, they feel a little janky and jangly compared to what they produce these days but they have so much charm.

Give me a high quality bracelet with folded end-links and a pressed clasp over solid and milled and I'm a happy man!

I still prefer aluminium inserts and acrylic crystals too. It's not some Luddite sense of 'things were better 'cause they're from yesteryear' so much as it's a preference for the aesthetics and the way they feel on the wrist.

I guess the 14060 is from that period where 80% of today's engineering standards met 80% of the materials that've now been superceded - which is pretty good imo. No wonder they're still so popular and sought-after.

All that said, I completely agree that Tudor bracelets are sensational these days.

I am with you with the acrylic crystal to be honest. The time I put the Benrus 3061 that really shows! About the old bracelets I have too little experience. Might need an older Explorer to drive test it :D

Your post is a love letter.

I've sold most of my watches. They include one I thought I'd keep for my older daughter (she dropped it when she was 2yo and nicked its bezel) and the watch I wore when I got married. Do I regret those decisions? No. They were the right ones to take at the time and I'm not one to second guess my motivations retroactively.

I've replaced them with an entirely different kind of collection. Gone are the expensive art pieces steeped in history, etc. In their place is a refreshing spread much more in keeping with who I am today, and that keep me entertained.

marioap

I am with you with the acrylic crystal to be honest. The time I put the Benrus 3061 that really shows! About the old bracelets I have too little experience. Might need an older Explorer to drive test it :D

They're fantastic Mario!

I have a Daniel JeanRichard Chronograph from ~ 1995. It was made by Girard Perregaux so the quality is outstanding and it has acrylic, aluminium insert and a pressed clasp and folded end-links like a lot of watches from that era and the bracelet is fantastic. The links are thinner too so it's really light but the tolerances are tight so it's not too jangly.

Have you ever been hands on with a Forstner Rivet bracelet? It's got straight ends, no end-links but the clasp is pressed. It's as close to a high quality vintage bracelet that I know of. You could try one of them. They're my favourite after market bracelet by a mile. I'm actually wearing it with my Nivada Super Antarctic today!

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I have never seen this watch before, looks great

Hodonkee

They're fantastic Mario!

I have a Daniel JeanRichard Chronograph from ~ 1995. It was made by Girard Perregaux so the quality is outstanding and it has acrylic, aluminium insert and a pressed clasp and folded end-links like a lot of watches from that era and the bracelet is fantastic. The links are thinner too so it's really light but the tolerances are tight so it's not too jangly.

Have you ever been hands on with a Forstner Rivet bracelet? It's got straight ends, no end-links but the clasp is pressed. It's as close to a high quality vintage bracelet that I know of. You could try one of them. They're my favourite after market bracelet by a mile. I'm actually wearing it with my Nivada Super Antarctic today!

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Nope, I haven't tried. I might need to though. BTW, I like that Nivada a lot. It's been in my short list for quite some time.

AnthonyLJ

I have never seen this watch before, looks great

Yes, it's very rare to see.

This is a rare bird. However, I really love the look of it!!!

Only three have really bothered me and still do, years later.

Citizen NY0040. Since replaced and won't sell.

Grand Seiko first antimagnetic. Long discontinued and ridiculously priced now.

Omega A-T quartz 38mm. Also discontinued.