I need some movement Help

I am looking at possibly purchasing a Mido TV Big Date. But in doing my research I come across a possible issue with the movement. It has a Automatic Mido Caliber 80 (base ETA C07.651). The point of contention is that some people have said it has a plastic escapment and other have said it does not. I don’t even know what that is. But from what I understand the plastic escapment is bad? Could anybody help me out here it would be much appreciated.

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I wouldn’t go for it if it’s the base Powermatic 80. Plastic never ends well in watches.

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Some of the Powermatic 80 movements have a plastic escapement. That DOES NOT make it bad. It is a cost cutting maneuver, but they are stating that they will last 10 years…about the amount of time between servicing, and when serviced they would replace it. They have been on the market three years and I’ve not heard of a single one failing.

I have two Powermatic 80 watches; the Tissot PRX, which has the plastic escapement, and the Hamilton Khaki Field automatic, which I have no idea as to whether or not the part is plastic. They both run flawlessly and keep time within COSC. In fact, they keep time better than my METAS certified Omega Speedmaster and my COSC Longines Spirit Zulu time.

Ulysses Nardan introduced the silicon balance spring about a decade ago. At the time, people questioned it, and now it’s a premium part.

Find someone that actually had an issue with that part of the watch. I think what you are seeing is backlash against the hype of the PRX.

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Okavango

I wouldn’t go for it if it’s the base Powermatic 80. Plastic never ends well in watches.

I think it’s a middle of the road version.

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I've had many watches with the Powermatic 80 movement and all were problem free. Watch enough YouTube and read enough unsubstantiated BS on the internet and you'll eventually come to the conclusion that every movement and every brand sucks.

So many experts with so little real experience.

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foghorn

I've had many watches with the Powermatic 80 movement and all were problem free. Watch enough YouTube and read enough unsubstantiated BS on the internet and you'll eventually come to the conclusion that every movement and every brand sucks.

So many experts with so little real experience.

I agree. Sometime I do to much research and overthink things.

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cornfedksboy

Some of the Powermatic 80 movements have a plastic escapement. That DOES NOT make it bad. It is a cost cutting maneuver, but they are stating that they will last 10 years…about the amount of time between servicing, and when serviced they would replace it. They have been on the market three years and I’ve not heard of a single one failing.

I have two Powermatic 80 watches; the Tissot PRX, which has the plastic escapement, and the Hamilton Khaki Field automatic, which I have no idea as to whether or not the part is plastic. They both run flawlessly and keep time within COSC. In fact, they keep time better than my METAS certified Omega Speedmaster and my COSC Longines Spirit Zulu time.

Ulysses Nardan introduced the silicon balance spring about a decade ago. At the time, people questioned it, and now it’s a premium part.

Find someone that actually had an issue with that part of the watch. I think what you are seeing is backlash against the hype of the PRX.

Thanks. This is for a Mido but still in the swatch family. Meaning it’s probably similar. From what I can find the model in the Mido has a regular escapement

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cornfedksboy

Some of the Powermatic 80 movements have a plastic escapement. That DOES NOT make it bad. It is a cost cutting maneuver, but they are stating that they will last 10 years…about the amount of time between servicing, and when serviced they would replace it. They have been on the market three years and I’ve not heard of a single one failing.

I have two Powermatic 80 watches; the Tissot PRX, which has the plastic escapement, and the Hamilton Khaki Field automatic, which I have no idea as to whether or not the part is plastic. They both run flawlessly and keep time within COSC. In fact, they keep time better than my METAS certified Omega Speedmaster and my COSC Longines Spirit Zulu time.

Ulysses Nardan introduced the silicon balance spring about a decade ago. At the time, people questioned it, and now it’s a premium part.

Find someone that actually had an issue with that part of the watch. I think what you are seeing is backlash against the hype of the PRX.

Agreed I’ve only had good experiences myself

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I've heard of silicone hairspring in escapements but I believe this is not what is being referred to here as plastic, right?

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The C07.6XX and C07.8XX series Powermatic 80 don't have the plastic escapment.

Only the C07.1XX series Powermatic 80 has plastic escapment and that movement is only found in Tissot watches.

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I've heard mixed things about plastic parts (Seiko even use them on the 6R15 etc) but if I recall correctly, one of the main complaints with the Powermatic 80 is that it also can't be regulated.

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Nice TV #mido