Rolex & watch industry in trouble - READ
I love watches, been collecting for 20 years, but I think high end horology is in big trouble.
How do you guys feel about collecting watches when now there are replica watches, that are so good, even Rolex can't tell if it's fake? There are replicas out there (high end ones) for like 1000-2000 dollars, that is a perfect resemblance to a genuine Rolex in every aspect to include the movement.
I do not support replicas at all, but there a certain way I feel that I know I can get a replica, for 10% of the original price of a genuine Rolex, that is so good, to include the movement that no one can tell.
What you guys think about this? Is the watch industry in trouble? Should all the high end watches put some sort of chip or bar code in the watch that is used to authenticate?
Because technology is at the point anything can be replicated to pretty much perfection. Touchy subject, but this is an important one for all true watch collectors.
I love watches, my favorite brands is Omega, Rolex & Grand Seiko, Vacheron Constantin, Blanc Pain
There is no such thing as a fake that Rolex can’t tell is fake. Super fakes are getting better, but a quick peak at the movement is all you need to do.
Fraud has always been an issue In high end art/fashion. The main draw back is that it makes collecting more exclusive to those that are in the know and makes would be buyers shy away for fear of being defrauded.
There is no such thing as a fake that Rolex can’t tell is fake. Super fakes are getting better, but a quick peak at the movement is all you need to do.
That's old way of thinking.
The replicas now literally replicate the movement to the finest detail.
Old fakes use ETA or alternative movements, but replica, literally replicate the exact movement. If you open it up, it's the exact same movement.
Fraud has always been an issue In high end art/fashion. The main draw back is that it makes collecting more exclusive to those that are in the know and makes would be buyers shy away for fear of being defrauded.
I like your thought process.
You are right, high end art etc is always at risk of fraud.
That's old way of thinking.
The replicas now literally replicate the movement to the finest detail.
Old fakes use ETA or alternative movements, but replica, literally replicate the exact movement. If you open it up, it's the exact same movement.
BS. Sell your fakes somewhere else.
That's old way of thinking.
The replicas now literally replicate the movement to the finest detail.
Old fakes use ETA or alternative movements, but replica, literally replicate the exact movement. If you open it up, it's the exact same movement.
At some point the details break down. I'm not saying I could spot a really good fake, but I find it hard to believe Rolex would be unable to do so. They know exactly how they make and polish each tiny piece, so while it might take more time than is really worth it, I believe they could figure it out.
At some point the details break down. I'm not saying I could spot a really good fake, but I find it hard to believe Rolex would be unable to do so. They know exactly how they make and polish each tiny piece, so while it might take more time than is really worth it, I believe they could figure it out.
It's not.
A rolex submariner is a very basic watch, a high end replica $1000 dollar mimics everything to the finest detail. There are literally high end replicas that is almost impossible to distinguish the difference. Welcome to 2022
High end fakes just make the Rolex Certified Pre-owned move even more profitable for Rolex ADs.
If Rolex "certifies" it, you're completely off the hook for figuring out whether it's a fake or not.