Interesting Issue…
…with a simple fix.
The GL224 movement (based on Sellita SW200, I believe) seems to have a reputation for being a bit crunchy winding. This one is a bit noisier than my Seikos and Miyotas. Until it became apparent that the winding stem was spinning up the rotor!
I found a few references that it can happen if lube gets dry or watch sits idle for too long. It did it intermittently a few times. Then that’s all that turning the crown would do. Even screwing it down I could feel the rotor spinning.
Was thinking I might have to open it up and check friction on the cannon pinion or setting lever. Decided just to wear it.
And you know what? Wearing it has solved the issue (at least for now.) Seems wearing it moves the rotor enough to break the stiction I was experiencing. After a few hours on the wrist it winds as well as it ever did. It is, after all, just about six months old… Guess I just need to wear it more often.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
Engineer, Technical Trainer, lapsed pilot, nerd of many stripes.
Not an uncommon issue. I've heard of it over the years occuring in ETA, Selitta, and STP movements. Some reading material
https://www.google.com/search?q=automatic+watch+rotor+spins+when+winding&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1070US1070&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgDECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMg8IARAuGCcYxwEY6gIY0QMyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAjGCcY6gIyCQgFECMYJxjqAjIJCAYQLhgnGOoCMgkIBxAuGCcY6gLSAQkyNTk3ajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Not an uncommon issue. I've heard of it over the years occuring in ETA, Selitta, and STP movements. Some reading material
https://www.google.com/search?q=automatic+watch+rotor+spins+when+winding&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1070US1070&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgDECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMg8IARAuGCcYxwEY6gIY0QMyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAjGCcY6gIyCQgFECMYJxjqAjIJCAYQLhgnGOoCMgkIBxAuGCcY6gLSAQkyNTk3ajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Thank you, good sir. 🍻
Had the same issue with mine. Started wearing a bit more often and I haven't experienced that issue again.
Nice watch! I love Glycine. I find all the ETA 2824 derivatives to have grainy winding action. What I usually do is let it wind down and then hand wind only half way. I think the key is to only get it started with winding, and then let the rotor do the rest.
In the short time I was the caretaker of a Glycine Combat Sub a similar thing happened one time. Put it on the wrist for a day and the issue did not come back. Chalked it up to a weird fluke. I have also have it happen with an ETA based movement. In all cases wearing the watch for a day fixes the issue.
Thanks for the post! I haven't run into this issue with mine but glad to know what to do in case it happens. The winding has definitely always been crunchy though.
Hmm. Sellita movements, in my experience (which is pretty long, now) shouldn’t do that in any event. I’d take it to a watchmaker. Sellita movements are easy to service, so you’re not looking at anything scary in terms of cost, even if you need a part.
In any event, all the best!
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In the short time I was the caretaker of a Glycine Combat Sub a similar thing happened one time. Put it on the wrist for a day and the issue did not come back. Chalked it up to a weird fluke. I have also have it happen with an ETA based movement. In all cases wearing the watch for a day fixes the issue.
Weird. My Sellita movements don’t crunch. The Miyota movements did.
Weird. My Sellita movements don’t crunch. The Miyota movements did.
I have only had it happen two times total on watches I was not wearing often but wound regularly. Now I only wind a few time to start a watch I plan to wear that day. I do have exceptions to that run, my moon phase full calendar stays on a winder as it takes forever to set and my manual winds get a full wind when I wear them. Since changing my habits I have not had an issue.
I have only had it happen two times total on watches I was not wearing often but wound regularly. Now I only wind a few time to start a watch I plan to wear that day. I do have exceptions to that run, my moon phase full calendar stays on a winder as it takes forever to set and my manual winds get a full wind when I wear them. Since changing my habits I have not had an issue.
Interesting. I don’t currently have a moonphase but I have had and I used a winder. I used to keep all my watches wound but I decided that was dumb and not good for them. Now I like to gently hand wind and set my current rotation every day. It’s a pleasure to handle and polish them.
I figure appreciating our watches is part of the fun!
Interesting. I don’t currently have a moonphase but I have had and I used a winder. I used to keep all my watches wound but I decided that was dumb and not good for them. Now I like to gently hand wind and set my current rotation every day. It’s a pleasure to handle and polish them.
I figure appreciating our watches is part of the fun!
I agree. I did enjoy winding them all every day but was convinced it is best to only keep a few going at any one time and to make sure they all get run every month or two just to make sure they are in good shape.
I agree. I did enjoy winding them all every day but was convinced it is best to only keep a few going at any one time and to make sure they all get run every month or two just to make sure they are in good shape.
Yes. A sound policy.
Yes. A sound policy.
That was the conclusion I came to after doing research and thinking it through. It also helps ID the watches that. Do not really get used often.
That was the conclusion I came to after doing research and thinking it through. It also helps ID the watches that. Do not really get used often.
True! It’s a help when deciding which must walk the plank.
It’s called “helicoptering”many sellitas do this,had same glycine.When I tried setting time,it would shake very violently;would shake worse if I wound it.It was unbelievable to me,that something so small could shake so much.It got progressively worse.Returned watch.luckily I only have one sellita(muhle)I try to avoid them from now on.