Another Vintage Omega

Hello, I've got an vintage omega here. Can anyone help me find the model of this omega, it sadly doesn't work. Can anyone recognize it or place a value on it, if it was in a working condition. Is it worth restoring? Here are the pictures:

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It looks like the Omega small Seconds. I could be wrong.

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Tomaswatch

It looks like the Omega small Seconds. I could be wrong.

Yeah, probably that but I still can't find the exact model or ref. num.

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As ever, paging WC's resident expert on all things vintage Omega: any insights, @YourIntruder ?

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Looks like an Omega 30T2 movement, serial number dates it around 1940. I'm not sure if they had true "references" back then, that movement was used in many different dial variants.

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DixonSteele

As ever, paging WC's resident expert on all things vintage Omega: any insights, @YourIntruder ?

Not really. The serialnumber say from 39 to early mid 40s. I’m no expert on movements but looks like 30t2. The case I don’t recall and not the numbering on the inside of the caseback either. Very nice dial. But sorry no knowledge. The person we should ask is @MrBloke .

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The patina on the dial is lovely. There's a notable 'T' shaped lack of patina around the logo and marque, is that explained by the method of applying the text?

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DixonSteele

The patina on the dial is lovely. There's a notable 'T' shaped lack of patina around the logo and marque, is that explained by the method of applying the text?

What do you mean exactly, I can't quite understand

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Lukasti

What do you mean exactly, I can't quite understand

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Maybe easier to see here? I distinctly see an inverted 'T' shape (circled) where there doesn't seem to be any patination for some reason...

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DixonSteele
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Maybe easier to see here? I distinctly see an inverted 'T' shape (circled) where there doesn't seem to be any patination for some reason...

Oh now I see it, interesting I didn't notice that before. I don't know why is that, but interesting to know

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I don't know enough about the process of dial manufacturing to explain that inverted T-shape around the Omega logo and font. Nothing about the dial strikes me as wrong/incorrectly restored. Perhaps it was meant to achieve some optical effect back when that dial was new?

The movement is, as has been said, a 30T2. Looking closely at the movement pic, you can even see it marked 30T2 on the baseplate under the balance wheel.

Case is a bit peculiar, though. I definitely recognize that design in that the movement rests in a bowl-like case back rather than being fixed to the midcase. Got a case like that in my 1946 ref. MI 2214. Speaking of reference numbers, this watch definitely has one, but not engraved on it anywhere, which was common. Omegas often had a case serial rather than a reference number until the late 1940s. So, correct for 1940. What I find odd is the absence of a marking denoting the case material. That's what's weird. Then again, there's nothing to suggest that the case is wrong. Could be a peculiarity of the case manufacturer, of the intended market... I mean, in theory, Omegas had all the relevant info on the inside of the case back, and yet there's a number of exceptions to that rule known.

All in all, I believe it to be legit. However, that movement needs a proper service, the position of the regulator is beyond unacceptable. No wonder it doesn't run, my guess is that it being clogged with old grease is the least of its problems. I recommend leaving the dial and case as they are. Get the movement running, the crystal buffed out, wear it, and enjoy it.

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MrBloke

I don't know enough about the process of dial manufacturing to explain that inverted T-shape around the Omega logo and font. Nothing about the dial strikes me as wrong/incorrectly restored. Perhaps it was meant to achieve some optical effect back when that dial was new?

The movement is, as has been said, a 30T2. Looking closely at the movement pic, you can even see it marked 30T2 on the baseplate under the balance wheel.

Case is a bit peculiar, though. I definitely recognize that design in that the movement rests in a bowl-like case back rather than being fixed to the midcase. Got a case like that in my 1946 ref. MI 2214. Speaking of reference numbers, this watch definitely has one, but not engraved on it anywhere, which was common. Omegas often had a case serial rather than a reference number until the late 1940s. So, correct for 1940. What I find odd is the absence of a marking denoting the case material. That's what's weird. Then again, there's nothing to suggest that the case is wrong. Could be a peculiarity of the case manufacturer, of the intended market... I mean, in theory, Omegas had all the relevant info on the inside of the case back, and yet there's a number of exceptions to that rule known.

All in all, I believe it to be legit. However, that movement needs a proper service, the position of the regulator is beyond unacceptable. No wonder it doesn't run, my guess is that it being clogged with old grease is the least of its problems. I recommend leaving the dial and case as they are. Get the movement running, the crystal buffed out, wear it, and enjoy it.

Thanks for such a detailed response, I'm going to have it looked at tomorrow. Hope it's repairable, Will update on it.

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You could ask Sao, the owner of www.omegaenthusiastltd.com for his opinion. Sao is not only a true Omega expert but, according to my experience, also a very honest person who is always ready to advise.

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MrBloke

I don't know enough about the process of dial manufacturing to explain that inverted T-shape around the Omega logo and font. Nothing about the dial strikes me as wrong/incorrectly restored. Perhaps it was meant to achieve some optical effect back when that dial was new?

The movement is, as has been said, a 30T2. Looking closely at the movement pic, you can even see it marked 30T2 on the baseplate under the balance wheel.

Case is a bit peculiar, though. I definitely recognize that design in that the movement rests in a bowl-like case back rather than being fixed to the midcase. Got a case like that in my 1946 ref. MI 2214. Speaking of reference numbers, this watch definitely has one, but not engraved on it anywhere, which was common. Omegas often had a case serial rather than a reference number until the late 1940s. So, correct for 1940. What I find odd is the absence of a marking denoting the case material. That's what's weird. Then again, there's nothing to suggest that the case is wrong. Could be a peculiarity of the case manufacturer, of the intended market... I mean, in theory, Omegas had all the relevant info on the inside of the case back, and yet there's a number of exceptions to that rule known.

All in all, I believe it to be legit. However, that movement needs a proper service, the position of the regulator is beyond unacceptable. No wonder it doesn't run, my guess is that it being clogged with old grease is the least of its problems. I recommend leaving the dial and case as they are. Get the movement running, the crystal buffed out, wear it, and enjoy it.

Impressing as always👌

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lodyembrechts

You could ask Sao, the owner of www.omegaenthusiastltd.com for his opinion. Sao is not only a true Omega expert but, according to my experience, also a very honest person who is always ready to advise.

Does he use watchcrunch or do I need to go on his website?

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Lukasti

Does he use watchcrunch or do I need to go on his website?

You can contact Sao via his website or via DM on his Instagram (omega_enthusiast) 👍👍

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lodyembrechts

You can contact Sao via his website or via DM on his Instagram (omega_enthusiast) 👍👍

Found him, thanks. Will ask him.