seiko pogue put off

Hey all, my grail watch is/was the Seiko Pogue and I was very close to realising that dream recently.

But upon a bit more research it seems to be a minefield getting an authentic Pogue. There seem to be lots of dodgy specimens out there.

I'm beginning to wonder how many people out there have one but don't realise that it's not what it seems.

Maybe it's just me being picky but I'm a bit of a stickler for the genuine article. Just wondering what my fellow Crunchers feel about this ? Am I being paranoid or should I lower my expectations ?

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Yep not on my list unless Seiko do a reissue commemorative model. Felt like I had a better chance on the roulette wheel then getting an original.

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You're right be be cautious. There a lot of Pogues out there with aftermarket parts. You need to understand what a good original example looks like. I would watch lots of videos on Spencer Klein's YouTube channel. He is pretty much the authority on vintage Seiko. I've put a link to an example of one of his videos below

https://youtu.be/l-a64PUIKvg?si=fzP2jsKUkOxx65Mm

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I'm not holding my breath waiting for Seiko to do a retro re-issue of the "Pogue"

I am though waiting for Pagani Design to do an affordable meca-quartz powered Homage to the "Pogue"!

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It's fair to be paranoid. You don't want to shell out a lot of cash and be ripped off. And it happens a lot in watches; even in watches far less interesting and far more common than the Pogue!

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phat_tony

Yep not on my list unless Seiko do a reissue commemorative model. Felt like I had a better chance on the roulette wheel then getting an original.

I think the nearest Seiko have got to a reissue is this Lorus, I believe the dimensions are about the same has a Pogue.

https://www.loruswatches.com/Watch/RL450BX9

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Many years ago I was also on a hunt for one but soon gave up. Getting even closely original sample ( like 80-90% ) is virtually impossible but if you really want it make sure you will do extreme due dilligence and definitely pay premium.

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Here's mine. Fully restored, did lots of research and ended up swapping it for a Ducati Monster 900... On an Uncle Seiko bracelet.

Love it, not a regular wear but certainly a bit special. Setting the date is particularly odd.

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Fubars

I think the nearest Seiko have got to a reissue is this Lorus, I believe the dimensions are about the same has a Pogue.

https://www.loruswatches.com/Watch/RL450BX9

Unfortunately too much gold on the Lorus. The Pepsi bezel and steel case makes the gold dial work.

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phat_tony

Unfortunately too much gold on the Lorus. The Pepsi bezel and steel case makes the gold dial work.

That's was just an example they also do a stainless version with a black dial.

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I have this vintage UFO...6138

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That's nice I really like that.

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There's always the 1983 "quartz Pogue"

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Inkitatus

There's always the 1983 "quartz Pogue"

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That's a good shout as an alternative!

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be paranoid

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Inkitatus

There's always the 1983 "quartz Pogue"

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Yes that's nice, they seem to be quiet scarce, and just as expensive as the Auto version. Probably due to the fact that there aren't any duplicate parts around.

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It is of course impoto know that your piece is genuine. It’s not mainly for the name as much as it for the craftsmanship. You expect a certain standard from your manufacturer, and this is what builds their name.

I have bo idea about the fake ones and how much are they as I haven’t researched this watch ever. But if they are that much then yeah man! Try to authenticate a piece before handing over the money.

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Be paranoid.

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Vinnie.Fox

It is of course impoto know that your piece is genuine. It’s not mainly for the name as much as it for the craftsmanship. You expect a certain standard from your manufacturer, and this is what builds their name.

I have bo idea about the fake ones and how much are they as I haven’t researched this watch ever. But if they are that much then yeah man! Try to authenticate a piece before handing over the money.

From the research I have done, I would be very sceptical of every Pogue on sale unless of course it's got a solid provenance. I know that can be said of most watches but the Pogue seems to attract more than it's fair share of attention from the make a quick Buck sellers.

Just goes to show that all that glitters isn't Gold or in this instance a Pogue 🤔.

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I would accept the fact that most of the Pogues that are out there are either rebuilds, refurbs, or just new from scratch. As others said, little chance they make a new one. Just purchase wisely. I have no issue buying a redial/tachmetre, etc if it is a few hundred dollars, knowing it isn’t all original. A well done $500 refurb isn’t a huge financial commitment and you are getting a watch you want. An all original? It is a minefield, find a trusted seller like DCVintage to source you one, but be prepared to pay.