Pitzmann 3 - What's your thought?

I recently saw a review video on Pitzmann 3 on Peter Korea's YouTube channel (if you haven't checked it, I highly recommend it). He gave high praise to this watch as an affordable alternative to Rolex Daytona (which some of us here prolly will never get the chance to experience). He mentioned the quality is superb, and to untrained eyes it looks like a Daytona. I wanted to check to see if anyone had experience with the brand and your thoughts in general.

My watch buying category usually is,

  1. If I were to only end up with this watch, will I have regret nor having any of my other watches.

  2. What is the value this watch is providing? Can I get someone better (look and quality) for the price?

  3. Is there a story behind this watch? (Sometimes this is optional, if the watch is a stunner and is quality)

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The problem with the Daytona is it draws comparisons anytime another watch has a black tachymeter bezel. Dial wise, they are nothing alike. At a price below $1500, it's a great deal and the Seiko movement is solid. The only thing stopping me from pre-order is that I already have a watch goal that I saving for.

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Jack76

The problem with the Daytona is it draws comparisons anytime another watch has a black tachymeter bezel. Dial wise, they are nothing alike. At a price below $1500, it's a great deal and the Seiko movement is solid. The only thing stopping me from pre-order is that I already have a watch goal that I saving for.

That's awesome. It's a beauty. Definitely wanna see the watch when you get it :)

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Honestly, it’s perplexing why Seiko doesn’t seem to put its 8R48/NE88 movement wherever it can - and leaving it to the microbrands to basically make a better Seikona for less money

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Great looking watch, great movement inside, and a price that even normal people can dream of owning one.

What is not to like?

All those Daytona comparisons are annoying. You can not reinvent the chrongraph each time you design one.

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You think they are gone? They would just turn to the chinese, and those that can will turn to Sellita/Ronda.

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Jack76

The problem with the Daytona is it draws comparisons anytime another watch has a black tachymeter bezel. Dial wise, they are nothing alike. At a price below $1500, it's a great deal and the Seiko movement is solid. The only thing stopping me from pre-order is that I already have a watch goal that I saving for.

This, its either an sla043 or a Dornbluth for my next watch, this is gorgeous but... maybe some other time.

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I didnt say that chinese movements are great, dont put words in my mouth.

I said that if Seiko and Myota were gone, the chinese movements would be the next best thing. Of course, next to the swiss third party ones, but that would be more expensive.

Did you not understand my post?

For all your questions, go ask the chinese.

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I didnt start a comparison between Seiko/Myota and chinese movements, you did. I presumed what would happen if Seiko/Myota would stopp with the movement supply. You also twisted my words.

Your question is something for the chinese manufactures to awnser, and not for me.

I however asked you a question as well: Did you not understand my previous post?

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While looking for Pitzmann posts, I went down a rabbit hole and found this,

https://www.venezianico.com/?_gl=1*1iszfu1*_up*MQ..&gclid=Cj0KCQiArrCvBhCNARIsAOkAGcXnw1-OgRyHS3v6I0IUv9Tp4uj1E7f6oOp-DKDRX3AvaOzM88o4lloaAupREALw_wcB

Now I can't stop looking at them 😍

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I didnt say chinese movements are better than Seiko/Myota ones.

I said. That if those would not be avaliable, the chinese would be the next best thing. You said that they would be gone, I said that that would not necessarily be true.

Why do you insist to twist my statement?

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Youre right, I didnt say that.

That is why I am confused on why you ask me severlal times, why the chinese dont use chinese build movements after I made a reply on what micro brands probrably would do, if the japanese would stop with the movement supply.

For me, your question had nothing to do with my staement.

Do we have a misunderstanding?

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And I said, that they probably would search for alternatives, if japanese movements would not be avaliable anymore. I dont think that PD and San Martin would go for Sellita/Ronda. The only thing left would be chinese.

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Nope, nope. These guys got controversial history. They used to be known as Meccaniche Veneziane. They rebrand to escape criticism on such as their quality control. Common complaint were misaligned bezels and poor customer service. But more damning are accusations that they have used movements installed in their watches. Steer clear.

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Jack76

Nope, nope. These guys got controversial history. They used to be known as Meccaniche Veneziane. They rebrand to escape criticism on such as their quality control. Common complaint were misaligned bezels and poor customer service. But more damning are accusations that they have used movements installed in their watches. Steer clear.

These guys as Pitzmann?

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samjones1983

These guys as Pitzmann?

No, the Venezianico brand

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Jack76

No, the Venezianico brand

Thanks for sharing. Really appreciate it.

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Their main criticism comes from Davide Cecchini, an Italian reviewer. He exposed their lack of quality and Meccaniche Veneziane went after him. However, MV received a lot of backlash and they went into hiding . Then they returned, rebranded as Venezianico. Same ownership. Davide Cecchini reviews are in Italian, but if you watch the subtitles it's detailed

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So I don’t have experience with THAT watch but I do have experience with the brand and their Pitzmann II model.

Personally, I love them. Their level of finishing and quality are really exceptional in my opinion. You won’t be disappointed.

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

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