Quantities and looks question.

What is a acceptable amount of watches to release when making a watch for the first time? Is 100 too many? Is it too little? I'm stuck in what the first Hunduh watch will look like. What is your opinion on a watches that looks like this? 

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Im leaning towards the Caravelle Diver look personally.

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I'm a big fan of the skin diver look, 3-6-9 with indices surrounding the numbers. As far as production run goes I'm not too sure. I imagine with a microbrand, balancing availability with scarcity and keeping up with demand seems to be the formula. 

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From what I've seen, the micro brands that have the most success have designs that are different from the big brands. 

This watch looks like many other designs. Which is maybe fine because it's a popular style. but there are also a million of them already out there. 

But the way, the correct word here is an, not a. (An acceptable amount... An American brand... Etc.)

Worth watching some videos on that if you're gonna be writing a lot of things for your brand. Just a suggestion.

Also I'd consider going leather free to stand out from other micro brands. It's a really horrible industry and some people like me don't purchase products that include leather. You can check out some documentaries like Dominon on YouTube if you want.

I hope that helps. 

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CitizenKale

From what I've seen, the micro brands that have the most success have designs that are different from the big brands. 

This watch looks like many other designs. Which is maybe fine because it's a popular style. but there are also a million of them already out there. 

But the way, the correct word here is an, not a. (An acceptable amount... An American brand... Etc.)

Worth watching some videos on that if you're gonna be writing a lot of things for your brand. Just a suggestion.

Also I'd consider going leather free to stand out from other micro brands. It's a really horrible industry and some people like me don't purchase products that include leather. You can check out some documentaries like Dominon on YouTube if you want.

I hope that helps. 

Thank you. I will seek this dominion film

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Jewbaka

I'm a big fan of the skin diver look, 3-6-9 with indices surrounding the numbers. As far as production run goes I'm not too sure. I imagine with a microbrand, balancing availability with scarcity and keeping up with demand seems to be the formula. 

Thank you for your input. I'm mainly trying to keep it affordable to myself and the customer. But also enough raise funds so I can buy the equipment and space needed to mass produce my own in-house movement

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I may be biased, because I own that watch (mine has the baton hands and lollipop seconds). I removed the bezel though. I think it's an awesome look.

I'm curious though if you went with a watch with that look, what would you do with the dimensions? It's a 36.5mm case. Maybe 37 with the bezel. Would you go that small?

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arbeck

I may be biased, because I own that watch (mine has the baton hands and lollipop seconds). I removed the bezel though. I think it's an awesome look.

I'm curious though if you went with a watch with that look, what would you do with the dimensions? It's a 36.5mm case. Maybe 37 with the bezel. Would you go that small?

I like it too. Especially whats printed on the dial. Feel like it might be too spicy to reproduce such a dial today. 

concernin the size. (I don't have my calipers on hand middle of moving, its boxed up somewhere.) But I think its closer to 39 maybe? Heres a photo of it next to a Tudor Tiger and Speedmaster. 

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Cant wait to find my photo box to shoot nicer photos again

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Hunduhr

I like it too. Especially whats printed on the dial. Feel like it might be too spicy to reproduce such a dial today. 

concernin the size. (I don't have my calipers on hand middle of moving, its boxed up somewhere.) But I think its closer to 39 maybe? Heres a photo of it next to a Tudor Tiger and Speedmaster. 

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Cant wait to find my photo box to shoot nicer photos again

Mine measures 36.5mm without the bezel (just double checked it). I'm not sure what the bezel would add if anything. 

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arbeck

Mine measures 36.5mm without the bezel (just double checked it). I'm not sure what the bezel would add if anything. 

I have a smaller Caravelle buried somewhere in the boxes. If I find it, I'll post it in the thread

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I second CitizenKale - there's hundreds of watches with that look already. My fave micros are doing what nobody else does (or dares to) : Direnzo, Farer, Geckota ... 

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ElTomstro

I second CitizenKale - there's hundreds of watches with that look already. My fave micros are doing what nobody else does (or dares to) : Direnzo, Farer, Geckota ... 

Just checked out the brands you listed and I do like all their styles. For a launch watch, I'm leaning towards a skin diver design I think.

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Caravelle Diver with the domed glass is my favourite too. A no nonsense tool watch with a design language that’s distinct enough, not least because of the domed glass. But I’d consider painting the hands. It’s much better for legibility, and I don’t think unpainted hands suit a tool watch. They are more for dress watches where you may want to make a point out of letting polished hands catch and reflect the light depending on the angle. On a tool watch, you just want legibility. And it looks much better too IMO. It’s cleaner. 

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I don't know about quantities, but if you choose the Caravelle Sea Hunter as the base for the model, I'd suggest around 250-300 units with slightly different twists in the design, such a version with a red seconds hand while the other keeps the white seconds hand.

I own two of these watches, from 1970 and 1970 with a more modern approach to the hands and it is a beautiful piece with a great case shape. It is 36.5mm in diameter with a very high doomed crystal and bidirectional friction bezel a 666 feet water resistance.

A good modern reinterpretation I was thinking to make with a channel's friend would be a 37mm size with 20mm width strap, drilled lugs, Miyota Automatic movement 9039 and screw down crown. Would love to keep it 666 feet water resistant but probably with only 10 bar would be enough and would keep the costs low. In that case I would try to make the bezel bidirectional and with ratchet. If not, it would be ok to keep it unidirectional. If bidirectional it could be nice to have a countdown bezel instead of a conventional diver one. 

One more thing, the 1970 version has the hour hand a bit too long reaching the hour markers, so it should be a tad smaller to make it more distinguishable at a first glance. Should you want more input and if you feel we can somehow help, please let me know.

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marioap

I don't know about quantities, but if you choose the Caravelle Sea Hunter as the base for the model, I'd suggest around 250-300 units with slightly different twists in the design, such a version with a red seconds hand while the other keeps the white seconds hand.

I own two of these watches, from 1970 and 1970 with a more modern approach to the hands and it is a beautiful piece with a great case shape. It is 36.5mm in diameter with a very high doomed crystal and bidirectional friction bezel a 666 feet water resistance.

A good modern reinterpretation I was thinking to make with a channel's friend would be a 37mm size with 20mm width strap, drilled lugs, Miyota Automatic movement 9039 and screw down crown. Would love to keep it 666 feet water resistant but probably with only 10 bar would be enough and would keep the costs low. In that case I would try to make the bezel bidirectional and with ratchet. If not, it would be ok to keep it unidirectional. If bidirectional it could be nice to have a countdown bezel instead of a conventional diver one. 

One more thing, the 1970 version has the hour hand a bit too long reaching the hour markers, so it should be a tad smaller to make it more distinguishable at a first glance. Should you want more input and if you feel we can somehow help, please let me know.

I too would like to keep the 666 feet on the dial. I would like to put a swiss movement into it tho. Thanks for your input

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Of course, you can use a sellita SW 200 in there. I would opt for a Miyota given the Caravelle-Bulova heritage of the watch, owned by Citizen (owner of Miyota) :)