Christopher Ward C63 Valour

So after CW put the picture on IG "by mistake" it now looks like they released the watch, It's a shame they did it on quartz

a bicompax mechanical would've been so much better

What do you guys think?

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The optical appearance and details are in my opinion a pretty amazing plus.

The movement surely would be a nice to have, i think its a stunner 😍

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Just my 2 cents, but I think a quartz watch from CW is a strange decision with the status they have earned.

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So since this is a military inspired watch and I know from a collector friend who is in the army that he would only wear quartz watches on a mission since no matter how tough a mechanical watch is, the quartz is just more reliable

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Bicompax is a Chinese movement isn't it? I know it originated in Switzerland though....

I think CW are 'Swiss Made', so that wouldn't work.

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The debate between quartz vs mechanical is over for me. I couldn’t care less. If it’s from a brand I trust and I know the specs are good it wouldn’t matter to me.

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For a chronograph I much rather have a quartz. Thinner, more accurate, cheaper to service

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work_time_wrist_shot

Bicompax is a Chinese movement isn't it? I know it originated in Switzerland though....

I think CW are 'Swiss Made', so that wouldn't work.

Bicompax is just a term for a watch having 2 subdials. The dual register layout comes in quartz, auto & mechanical from a number of companies.

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Rich_P

Bicompax is just a term for a watch having 2 subdials. The dual register layout comes in quartz, auto & mechanical from a number of companies.

Oh, cool! Thought you meant the ST movement 👍

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work_time_wrist_shot

Oh, cool! Thought you meant the ST movement 👍

Like you said, it originated in Switzerland, so you’re not wrong. Universal Geneve originally came up with the term “compax”. But the watch industry picked that up & ran with it so now it’s a general term.

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Maybe, but I doubt you would like the price increase if they did a swiss chronograph. Quartz is the better choice for chronographs IMO. Easy to service and replace 👌

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It looks great and I'm very happy to see CW making quartz watches, especially quartz Chronographs again

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I’m fine with it. Quartz is lighter and thinner, something chronograph movements suffer from severely when “mechanized.” And it’s cheaper for consumers, both upfront and with expensive af service costs for your average Joe

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jeff92

So since this is a military inspired watch and I know from a collector friend who is in the army that he would only wear quartz watches on a mission since no matter how tough a mechanical watch is, the quartz is just more reliable

I can attest to that as a veteran! The only snag I ran into with a quartz was changing the battery in the field (never again! I always put in a fresh one every 2 years after that). Although mechanical watches didn’t have THAT problem, they got magnetized quite a bit…even those ones with advertised “anti-magnetic” protection. One thing common to ALL watches, regardless of movement. was spring bars breaking! Gosh what a pain!

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spillingcoffeoncars

I can attest to that as a veteran! The only snag I ran into with a quartz was changing the battery in the field (never again! I always put in a fresh one every 2 years after that). Although mechanical watches didn’t have THAT problem, they got magnetized quite a bit…even those ones with advertised “anti-magnetic” protection. One thing common to ALL watches, regardless of movement. was spring bars breaking! Gosh what a pain!

How unlucky you have to be to run out of battery in the middle of a mission! So I guess the best way to go would be a solar powered watch from g shock 😅 these last on a full charge up to 3 years!

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Maybe because of the cost of maintaining the mechanical and the prices of them it’s a good call for them but it seems pricey for me. I prefer a Longines.

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There is an agreed upon price cap with the MOD collection that CW has to adhere to. The Sandhurst bronze was never available as a package with the bronze bracelet even though it was always available on its own. This is because the bracelet would put the cost over the cap. A mechanical option would never have fallen below the cap.

Some interesting design choices with this one though.

The jury is out for me on having all three branches represented in this design. I sort of wish that they had done an aviation themed watch. I always thought that the military collection was missing a chronograph.

The numerals on the dial are an interesting throwback to the motorsports chronographs that CW used to do.

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Love this release from CW. However, on upon looking up the movement on Caliber Corner, there is a line that took me by surprise: "It is not considered to be a repairable movement and is largely found in entry level lower priced timepieces." Might anyone have more insight to this statement? I'd be really shocked if this movement actually could not be repaired.

https://calibercorner.com/eta-caliber-g10-212/

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jeff92

So since this is a military inspired watch and I know from a collector friend who is in the army that he would only wear quartz watches on a mission since no matter how tough a mechanical watch is, the quartz is just more reliable

How many actual military forces are going to buy this watch to depend on it? These days watches are made for enthusiasts and collectors and we prefer mechanical pieces, specially above 500€ price.

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melonbread

Love this release from CW. However, on upon looking up the movement on Caliber Corner, there is a line that took me by surprise: "It is not considered to be a repairable movement and is largely found in entry level lower priced timepieces." Might anyone have more insight to this statement? I'd be really shocked if this movement actually could not be repaired.

https://calibercorner.com/eta-caliber-g10-212/

I guess it's like what the AD said of my 1992 Hamilton khaki quartz (swiss quartz, time and date). The movement is alive and well, but in case of problems it costs less and it takes less time to swap it than to try repairing it. It's probably a standard practice.

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Tropical

I guess it's like what the AD said of my 1992 Hamilton khaki quartz (swiss quartz, time and date). The movement is alive and well, but in case of problems it costs less and it takes less time to swap it than to try repairing it. It's probably a standard practice.

Thanks for the reply! I did a bit more reading on it after posting, and you're right, it appears that's generally the case. Cheers.

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iPuk76

Just my 2 cents, but I think a quartz watch from CW is a strange decision with the status they have earned.

Most watches sold by Cartier are quartz. Almost their entire ladies collection is quartz and they sell them by the bucket load. I don’t mind a brand doing quartz and this one is a great movement.

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jeff92

So since this is a military inspired watch and I know from a collector friend who is in the army that he would only wear quartz watches on a mission since no matter how tough a mechanical watch is, the quartz is just more reliable

Yip, same as my pals. I wonder if they will do a high accuracy field watch 🤔