Lord-Elgin Micromatic

This was is quite unpopular in my opinon. I saw it at Antique market for a low price. On the case back is has graved message. Overall the watch is really good looking and keeps time on point. Watch case is 10k gold filled. This watch has a super thin automatic movement. I mesured without dome its 5mm and with dome its 9mm thick.

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The picture of the movement which is inside (not my picture, but from the same watch)

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Pretty impressive to make this thin of a automatic watch in 1950-1960

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It looks to be a great find. It may be more unappreciated than unpopular. Check with someone who knows, but that may be an A.S. 1716, which would make it the first ball bearing rotor automatic that Schild made.

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Aurelian

It looks to be a great find. It may be more unappreciated than unpopular. Check with someone who knows, but that may be an A.S. 1716, which would make it the first ball bearing rotor automatic that Schild made.

I agree that its more unappreciated than unpopular! But the movement might be based on it. From the pictures online it looks quite a match. The caliber which i found out is Elgin 925. Maybe its based on A.S. 1716. Thanks for the information! 😄

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nickt28

I agree that its more unappreciated than unpopular! But the movement might be based on it. From the pictures online it looks quite a match. The caliber which i found out is Elgin 925. Maybe its based on A.S. 1716. Thanks for the information! 😄

Elgin started using Schild movements in the 1950's in their high-end watches. Having the "Swiss" on the dial connoted luxury.

One last note, don't always trust the date on the inscription. I had one that was dated three years before the brand came into existence. I also have one that I know was inscribed when the watch was already 50 years old. The handset and indices of that watch look distinctly 1960's. So does the movement. Presentation watches are almost always harder to pin down.

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Aurelian

Elgin started using Schild movements in the 1950's in their high-end watches. Having the "Swiss" on the dial connoted luxury.

One last note, don't always trust the date on the inscription. I had one that was dated three years before the brand came into existence. I also have one that I know was inscribed when the watch was already 50 years old. The handset and indices of that watch look distinctly 1960's. So does the movement. Presentation watches are almost always harder to pin down.

Thanks for the information! I really appreciate it!😌About the years i agree that i probably is 60's because on the dial it has "T Swiss made T" which indicates that it has tritium lume. (Well.. had) The watch had been open before me and the lume dots are not present.

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nickt28

Thanks for the information! I really appreciate it!😌About the years i agree that i probably is 60's because on the dial it has "T Swiss made T" which indicates that it has tritium lume. (Well.. had) The watch had been open before me and the lume dots are not present.

The Elgin 925 (A.S. 1716) seems to have been first produced in 1964. I found three of these online, two of them were presentation watches each bearing a date in the late 1960's. Interesting that it is called a "Micromatic" because it certainly doesn't have a micro-rotor. That symbol below the Elgin name means something. This is normally when I send out the signal for @fancy_man. He is our resident Elgin person.

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I have a couple of Elgin watches from the 50's I stumbled on the brand and I like a.) the designs from the post war era and b.) that they are actually affordable. The company has a pretty interesting history and a one point were a major American manufacturer. My attitude is that I only have to please myself with my watch collection.

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Aurelian

The Elgin 925 (A.S. 1716) seems to have been first produced in 1964. I found three of these online, two of them were presentation watches each bearing a date in the late 1960's. Interesting that it is called a "Micromatic" because it certainly doesn't have a micro-rotor. That symbol below the Elgin name means something. This is normally when I send out the signal for @fancy_man. He is our resident Elgin person.

If I'm not mistaken, the symbol on the dial under the Elgin logo meant the 7 ball bearings that were used in the "Micromatic" movement, which was probably just a marketing gimmick. I'm not really sure if 7 vs. 5 ball bearings made an appreciable difference in the winding capabilities/efficiency of the rotor 😂