Anyone knows what is the Height (lug to lug) of these

13.6 mm thickness

21 mm lug width

Didn't see the lug to lug

I think Nouveau riche might be a better concept for these watches.

50mm lug to lug

pls dont read any judgement one way or the other into this comment - just a pt of aesthetic debate... what would you consider old money? And noveau riche? The latter is easy IMO - iced rolex, ap, patek...blingy jacob and Richard Mille...celeb stuff. What would be old money? Vintage patek? Cartier? Maybe King Seiko? Creador? Even some of the white dial enamel Seiko? Parmigiani? For what its worth, I would think Tudor is kinda middle of the road - neither OM nor NR and fairly neutral (I really dont understand Tudor tbh, nothing stands out, but hey thats just an opinion so pls dont mind!!!)

That lug width is so annoying 😆.

wouldn't people with money just buy the sub?

Rolex doesn't make enough subs. Wait lists are and not paying over MSRP. People with money have money because they're not frivolous.

No offense taken or intended on my part either. The truly old Old Money are beyond my scope. Rolex and Tudor are twentieth century success stories and so not truly old. Also, these are tool watches designed for hard men to do hard tasks in harsh environments and so, not for the truly rich. They've gained popularity through the admiration of the common man of the uncommon man.

OTOH, the truly rich, whether old or new can pretty much do as they please, lol.

The HBO show "Succession" is widely cited as the best example of old money/quiet luxury.

Washington Post: The rich don’t dress like you think they do

The Cut: Succession Makes Luxury Fashion Look Brutally Basic

NY Times: ‘Stealth Wealth’ and Bare Feet: How Power Dresses on ‘Succession’

Theo & Harris (YouTube) Reacting To The Watches in SUCCESSION

Rolex From a business and marketing standpoint are genius. Moving a little more upstream with the precious metal in Rolex, very little steel being available. Now looking to dominate the mid tier with Tudor even more so. Old money, new money it’s all about the money and they will continue to make plenty. I have nothing against a good business model as long as they keep producing high-quality products that meet the consumers wants and needs. Just my 2cents. 😂

I’d go with a used reverso, Omega, cartier or a vintage rolex if you’re going old money.

I think Tudor (despite the price range and brand heritage) is too sporty to be considered old money. Just my 2 cents though!

Don’t know the exact measurements but given the typical Tudor slab I can say: TOO BIG for my 6,5“ wrist.

Edit: I’ve just seen your one and only badge until today and I can SAFELY say: it’s WAY TOO BIG for you 😅