Fake, replica, hommage?

To me a watch must be in a completely different price segment to be an homage. It shouldn't complete with the original. A price anywhere near that of the original watch makes an "homage" just a knock off.

Replica & fake are same thing, a homage is "inspired by" and paying tribute to another design.

I think there is a small difference and i tried to underline it in my post

The difference of price should actually be included in the definition! I totally agree

I agree there is a difference that your definition makes clear.

I think Inkitatus is expressing his perspective in that to him they are effectively the same - fair enough. I don’t agree but I can see his perspective.

Would you call a zenith a knockoff rolex even though rolex used zenith movements in the daytona.

Reason I say a fake & replica are the same is there's dodgy sites out there selling "AA+ replica" that are blatant fakes

I agree with your definitions mostly. When people call Pagani Design and the like ‘homage’ I do cringe a little. It’s clearly a replica.

To me a fake and replica are basically the same.

Homage’s are everywhere and we have to accept this.

Me too. I must say that indeed i mostly agree with inki. My purpose was just to identify different categories that could help our community to clearly understand what we’re talkin’ about. Nonetheless, from a pratical standpoint, one could say that cat 1&2 are equally irritating

Exactly

I think the key difference between 1 and 2 relates to criminality.

Passing 1 off as the real thing and trying to obtain real thing prices is clearly criminal.

With 2 that isn’t really an option and was clearly never the intention.

While in terms of (lack of) artistic merit/credit/etc. 1 and 2 are v close and I can see a good argument for clumping them together, the absence of the potential for criminal intent is I think a significant distinction.

Excellent comment!

Firstly, homage has one "m", not two. Now, the difference between a fake and a replica is non-existent. An " homage" can be a copy with different branding or it can be a watch that copies specific design elements. As link as a watch is branded and priced "correctly" I have no issues with "homages". After all, the Swatch group does it with the so called " MoonSwatch" and the various Swatch x fill in the blank "collaborations", which I see as nothing more than selling overpriced junk plastic watches.

First: “hommage” is a french word and it’s written with 2 M, so please be careful before being rude.

Second: not trying to defend copies over originals, there’s no match, provided than anyone can make his choice, based on personal taste and bank account. The post aimed merely at ponting out the nomenclature of different, and sometimes regrettable, productions in the watch world.

Third: i don’t want to hatch a crusade against anybody, nor crunchers neither manufacturers.

In English homage has one m, not two. So says the OED.

I speak four languages and use the spelling of the original

Ask me if I care. I speak four also including French and the original Old French spelling had only one m.

I don’t if you care and i don’t care if you do. If you want to speak old french i could speak latin. But who cares? Thou started being aggressive and i really do not understand why. In modern french anyway, “hommage” is spelled with 2 m, i used the french word that is used nowadays, while thou are claiming to be a professor without any reason. Please stop it and please never comment on my posts again. Thou missed the sense of the post and revealed to be a poor person. I am not going to answer anymore. I wish you all the best but stay away from my life, virtual or not.

Do not get irritated Carlo, it is not worth it. May I suggest the use of the useful, calming function "block user"?

Very well put it, I like the clarity of it. I do believe that ignoring the legal implication of producing an selling fake goods is a major oversight.

1 and 2 are definetly NOT the same.

While the opportunity of selling/buying replicas depends on everyone's moral and ethical convictions, playing with fakes is more than often regulated by current, binding laws (at least in many countries). Maybe it is worth knowning the difference...