True divers watch?
As I understand if a watch says divers watch on the dial does this mean it's iso certified ?
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As I understand if a watch says divers watch on the dial does this mean it's iso certified ?
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Sort of? Not explicitly. I always check the product listing if this is a concern. Lots that are certified will say “Diver’s” on the dial, but there is nothing stopping a brand from putting that on the dial with no certifications.
There are also ISO standard watches that aren't marked with "Diver's".
To make things more confusing... the most recognized brands in the industry do not ISO Certify their dive watches. These manufacturers relied on government/military testing to verify their products with the public: their street cred came from elite units wearing them. Many collectors think anything over 200 meters of water resistance is BS. I disagree. The more robust tolerances built into a watch the longer the product will last "IF" cared for. There's no data, or certification, for any of the lower water resistance rated watches. Who's to say a watch with a 30 meter rating wouldn't die if a drop of water landed it? I try to stick to brands that have a history of building tool dive watches. ISO certification is as helpful as the stories of units wearing government issued divers in the field IMO.
The water resistance pooh pooh club: These are the same people who get giddy over METAS, TESTAF, or NASA certification. They pooh pooh water resistance because they claim no one will dive to depths requiring a Helium Escape Valve. I've never met a collector who's scheduled for an EVA in space this week. No collector I know is currently attending Top Gun or flies for the Blue Angels. Do you know anyone who's watch was destroyed by the magnification of their iPhone? Let's digress on saphire crystals and ceramic bezels. BTW, safe divers use a computer. Like all watches, their dive watch is toolwry = jewelry that was once a useful tool.
Postscript: Marathon GSAR ISO rated, still under government contract. Even used by NASA at one time (for all my Speedie Fan friends) 300 meters water resistance and tough as nails... for a wrist watch.
Sort of? Not explicitly. I always check the product listing if this is a concern. Lots that are certified will say “Diver’s” on the dial, but there is nothing stopping a brand from putting that on the dial with no certifications.
Yes it is just checked.bargain from Argos too
To make things more confusing... the most recognized brands in the industry do not ISO Certify their dive watches. These manufacturers relied on government/military testing to verify their products with the public: their street cred came from elite units wearing them. Many collectors think anything over 200 meters of water resistance is BS. I disagree. The more robust tolerances built into a watch the longer the product will last "IF" cared for. There's no data, or certification, for any of the lower water resistance rated watches. Who's to say a watch with a 30 meter rating wouldn't die if a drop of water landed it? I try to stick to brands that have a history of building tool dive watches. ISO certification is as helpful as the stories of units wearing government issued divers in the field IMO.
The water resistance pooh pooh club: These are the same people who get giddy over METAS, TESTAF, or NASA certification. They pooh pooh water resistance because they claim no one will dive to depths requiring a Helium Escape Valve. I've never met a collector who's scheduled for an EVA in space this week. No collector I know is currently attending Top Gun or flies for the Blue Angels. Do you know anyone who's watch was destroyed by the magnification of their iPhone? Let's digress on saphire crystals and ceramic bezels. BTW, safe divers use a computer. Like all watches, their dive watch is toolwry = jewelry that was once a useful tool.
Postscript: Marathon GSAR ISO rated, still under government contract. Even used by NASA at one time (for all my Speedie Fan friends) 300 meters water resistance and tough as nails... for a wrist watch.
I'm firmly in the WR is given far too much bandwidth camp, but also not for METAS or COSC.
Any reputable maker that says a watch has 50m WR, makes a watch that meets that pressure testing requirement. They don't necessarily test every watch, but they engineered them to withstand the pressures, and test samples.
If your Aliexpress special says 100m, be skeptical, but don't worry about your Hamilton with 50-100m WR.
I agree 100% WRT the GSAR, it is a watch that is still issued to people who need dependable, water resistant watches.
According to Orient (I bring it up because I checked your WRUW photos) those Kamasu watches you have there should be up to the task of some swimming, scuba tank or otherwise. This of course assuming you are not going to any crazy depths or anything.
Also "diver's" spelt with a possessive apostrophe. But as a few people have noted, there are some good non-certified watches that will take you to 200m and back.
#vostok #amphibia anyone?😜
Seiko stays true to certification for sure. Rolex, Omega, Blancpain etc. Have never been ISO certified. These companies claim they do their own testing. I believe they do BUT why not use ISO standards as a basic benchmark & blow them away ? Afterall the price is mind blowing