Subdial Conundrum

Ok Crunchers, here's a conundrum for you. This was my WRUW for today, my Invicta Corduba Chrono (a Flieger or a Diver or both). I recently had the battery replaced at my local watch service/repair guy.

I didn't notice this until I had already gotten back from the shop, but both the seconds (top) and minute (bottom) subdial hands went wacko right after this battery change. They both work when activated by the top pusher but both are awry and don't reset to TDC when the 'reset' bottom pusher is depressed.

The photo is taken with them in their resting/ready mode, and as you can see, the seconds hand resets to 15, the minute hand resets to 46.

Not sure what can be done about it, maybe remove/replace the battery and see if the hands can be reset manually?

Any ideas, share 'em.

UPDATE: Resolved by @foghorn as this uses a sequence of crown positions and pusher increments to reset the subdial hands! Thanks Cruncher Community. Admin flag for future use if needed!

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Dadmodswatches

I do know that on some movements there is a reset button that needs to be pushed after changing the battery

Thanks, is it curious that if those subdial hands were both TDC when the battery failed and when it was replaced, what would have necessarily caused them to move away from TDC?

I have another wristwatch in for adjustment with that same place, I'll ask them if they can take another look and see if there is the 'reset' that you speak of. Hope it solves it.

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Don't have an answer, but I love the dial of your watch! 😀

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Dadmodswatches

On this one I believe its this guy for example

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Wow, thanks for sending that along. I will show it to my guy! Appreciate it!

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itsthedialman

Don't have an answer, but I love the dial of your watch! 😀

Thanks. I am not much of a Chrono guy, this is the only one I own among my collection but I will say that it is a pretty tasteful dial.

Look at the crystal up there between the 12 and the 1, I was walking through a doorway and managed to catch the crystal on the doorjamb and fracture it. The crystal protrudes the slightest bit above the bezel ring, apparently just enough for me to damage it. Ah well, it is a watch to be worn so I have no qualms about it getting a bit bashed from time to time.

I had even sent it back to Invicta once to have them replace a battery and a strap, they suggested that the crystal be replaced but I declined. The receipts and documentation that came back to me of its service indicated that it had passed a pressure test so I guess it is still within all tolerances. It lives on!

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It’s because they didn’t put the hands on at TDC. If you have the manual, or movement caliber you can find instructions for calibrating the hands. It’s usually a sequence to the pushers.

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ThirdWatch

It’s because they didn’t put the hands on at TDC. If you have the manual, or movement caliber you can find instructions for calibrating the hands. It’s usually a sequence to the pushers.

If those subdial hands were both TDC when the battery failed and when it was replaced, what would have necessarily caused them to move away from TDC?

I'll look into the sequence of steps tp try to reset it as you suggested.

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RFIMike

If those subdial hands were both TDC when the battery failed and when it was replaced, what would have necessarily caused them to move away from TDC?

I'll look into the sequence of steps tp try to reset it as you suggested.

For the same reason your car forgets your radio station when the battery dies.

It was previously calibrated to be at tdc, battery dies so now the movement is at actual TDC. Until you show it where you want TDC to be, again.

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Most quartz chronos have a similar reset procedure using the pushers and crown. By pulling the crown to either position 2 or 3 and pushing one of the pushers it should advance the hands in single increments. Not sure which crown/pusher combo this might be for each subdial. You might have to use the trial and error method.

This is not uncommon after a battery change.

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ThirdWatch

For the same reason your car forgets your radio station when the battery dies.

It was previously calibrated to be at tdc, battery dies so now the movement is at actual TDC. Until you show it where you want TDC to be, again.

Another cruncher sent a diagram of the movement, identifying some of its particular areas wherein their might be a reset. I'll try to see if I can find out if there's a pusher sequence or I'll just take it back to my guy and see if he can resolve the issue.

Appreciate your comments and suggestions!

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You could ask your guy to make sure the chronograph is zeroed out and reset the hands to actual zero as well.

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foghorn

Most quartz chronos have a similar reset procedure using the pushers and crown. By pulling the crown to either position 2 or 3 and pushing one of the pushers it should advance the hands in single increments. Not sure which crown/pusher combo this might be for each subdial. You might have to use the trial and error method.

This is not uncommon after a battery change.

BANG! There it is. This worked for my particular watch: pulling the crown out to the 3rd position allowed me to use each pusher to incrementally move the subdial hands to the desired position! Thanks a bunch, I REALLY appreciate it!

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Dadmodswatches

I do know that on some movements there is a reset button that needs to be pushed after changing the battery

You are correct, I learned that a sequence of crown positions and pusher usage will allow the subdial hands to be incrementally moved to the desired position!

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ThirdWatch

You could ask your guy to make sure the chronograph is zeroed out and reset the hands to actual zero as well.

I learned that a sequence of crown positions and pusher usage will allow the subdial hands to be incrementally moved to the desired position!

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Very rare nice looking Invicta not crazy looking almost that pilot/diver watch look.