Credor being disprespected like crazy, does not deserve to be put in the same category as rolex and Hublot.

They are competing with patek. Credors «calatrava» beats all dress watches.

I have a CW and I find it hard to look at other watches in the mid tier/entry luxury position anymore.

I can 100% relate to the solid or almost heaviness, weigh almost as much as my dads 44m watch, looks and feel like it’s gonna last a lifetime

I cannot stand the daydate complication next to eachother at 3’o clock.

It looks lazy and somewhat ugly, lacking of symmetry. That’s why I can never buy a seiko 5 even though they look generally great.

crazy watch, the price is more crazy (in a good way)

Lazy relase is a terrible take on the tweleve. When they say that they took their time, they started working on it in 2017.

I see people calling it a copy of czapek which is contradictory when it comes to other conseus understanding of other integrated watches. The royal oak and the ingeniur are very similar still people don’t stamp either a copy because they had the same designer. Why does that not apply to the twelve and czapek? The designer that worked on the antartique was also working on the twelve.

The lazy take becomes even worse when you look at the twelve in the context of price. The genta watches are starting from 8000 and up. The highlife from FC does not have the genta design language and the PRX’s case creates a considerste distance from genta.

Next purchase of mine has to be a «dressier» watch, i’ve got the c65 dune in blue so no blue dials. For the time being I will hold on to buy the Zenith Elite moonphase grey dial (ideally), or a small seconds dress watch.