Best value TRUE/Traveler GMT??

What is a fake GMT?

😂 I think you’re messing with me but just incase you’re not…..A ‘TRUE’ or ‘Traveler’ GMT works differently to a Desk GMT. So Seiko 5 is a desk GMT Rolex GMT is a true GMT. The mechanism of a TRUE GMT is more complex than a desk GMT so tend to be expensive.

All of those sound like GMTs to me as they all display GMT.

The first GMT of all time, the Glycine Airman, would be a fake GMT using that definition. Do you mean a Rolex-style GMT?

For me best value TRUE GMT is this one:

#traska #truegmt

Two time zones on this one. The Marloe has 3. This looks cool though. Just seen they are also sold out so not available. Similar price though

Not my terminology my friend if you prefer to split hairs then travellers v desk is another option for you. They are different movements do need different terms. If you don’t care then that’s cool but some do. 90% of people will want a desk GMT, travelling I certainly don’t.

How is a rotating bezel relevant? Sure, a Rolex GMT has one as does the first GMT watch, the Glycine Airman, but there are plenty of other GMT designs out there and variety is the spice of life.

Ah I see, it's a specific type of GMT you're talking about. In what way is the desk type a fake GMT?

The traveller's vs desk terminology sounds more accurate than true vs fake.

I make no judgement about either type or the people who use them. Both the Glycine Airman and the GMT Master were designed for airline pilots and they tend to travel a fair bit in their employment.

The rotation on the bezel allows the tracking of a 3rd time zone. I travel a far bit so you can look at the timE where I am, home time and by rotating the bezel the time zone for my sister in Australia. The Rolex GMT II does this as does the Tudor and a lot of others but when you go under £1000 there is hardly any on the market. I’m not sure what your point is though, maybe I should have put a question mark on the title (oh actually I did) however I’m not trying to wind anyone up.

I’m not sure of the origin of the term True GMT, it’s not mine it seems to be an industry definition but they are 2 completely different movements.

This "true GMT" expression sounds like a watch industry marketing term to me. It seems a bit unfair on the "office" style GMT to call it that given it was used in space and an astronaut is more of a "traveller" than any earth-bound human!

No idea but in terms of complexity there is a bid difference between the 2 so my guess this was how it started I.e. the proper GMT is the jumping hour and linked to the PamAm Rolex story, where as the desk GMT is a far simpler and cheaper movement to manufacture. There are definitely not the same though.

Thanks for clarifying. So the question is "which is the best GMT watch with an independently adjustable local hour hand and the ability to track three separate time zones?" Or "which is the best watch which has the same configuration as the Rolex GMT Master?"

In that case the Traska posted wouldn't qualify, though I find it a bit harsh to claim it's not a GMT watch because it differs from the Rolex configuration.

First other Marloe owner I've seen on here, I think. Here's my Pacific 52. Cheers!

That’s nice! They are doing some cool stuff, they remind me a bit on Fares with colour etc.