I have got 2 free half links in the past, so I called preemptively recently for my Night Birch I just got it. They said they never did that for ti watches, but they do still do it for steel watches if requested

Nice review. Can I get a picture of the full bracelet on the side view with all the links visible?

How was changing out the bracelet/springbars and also taking out links on this one?

I totally disagree. Op Asked for the quality differences between Rolex and Omega. My post is literally pointing out how arbitrary trends can be and also how powerful public option is on the subject. The person I was responding to was saying the Daytona was to them objectively better then the speedy and mainly cause of movement being not only that much better, but that is indicative of the price difference.

My hunch like it or not is some percentage of their few, as with most people is heavily influenced one way or other by the current trends of public opinion. Why I was bringing up the past, you could not give the Daytona away. Now, rolex controls demand by heavily controlling the supply to give the idea of exclusivity, giving priority to celebrities and creating the public interest even further. By Rolex then insanely raising prices this is another trick that also further increases people’s respect for the brand based of factors that all being manipulated and so far from objective. The Daytona cost coming like 200 dollars when it came out, if you took into account and consideration for inflation that would be like 2 thousands of dollars in todays market. Instead Rolex Daytonas retail for what 15 to 20k? What is there secondary prices.. 35+ and all the way up. That has nothing to do something objective like higher quality stuff demands higher prices.

As I pointed out if you take your preference out of the equation the Ed white is a better chronograph built watch to the Daytona.

Now I am trying to be as objective as possible cause I’m my experience this question is basically useless as it devolves in Rolex fanboys and omega fanboys. Both being heavily influenced by others.

Also the question itself of what better quality is as a concept is very different from person to person. Why I have not even voted. Honestly the most helpful I can be to op if they are interested in the topic because they want to take some conclusion based on the majority responses are. I love discussing topics as you can see, but I like to push people to shy away from just being swayed by group/heard thought and mentality.

I like both brands a lot and like the progression of this topic being discussed. A lot more entertaining than the normal way it plays out may it be in the Rolex forum and or the Omega forum website. Cheers 🍻

Now this is when I get more critical, I don't get the Daytona. I don't like the look of it first of all but second, it was a absolute failure in every way from tim buk too.

Omega was beating the shit out of Rolex. Rolex essentially straight copies Omega with their Speedmaster design and makes the Cosmograph. Then the idea is to get picked by NASA so you know they could have cosmo fairing better against Omega is sales perhaps. Only issue is that they need to have there watches tested by NASA for approval. Shocking I know, but not only is Omega the only one to pass the tests, Rolex failed like in 3 separate tests/instances. Then Rolex had there "moon watch" via the Cosmograph that people hate the look of and now the name does not make any sense so they have to try and find a new angle and avenue to try and sale the watch.

They thought racing was the next best shot and called it... thats right Le Mans. Issue was suddenly they have to change their name yet again because they were then getting push back from the illegal use of the name and not wanting legal recourse against them, they went with Daytona.

They sold so bad that dealers literally could not give them away to customers. Its funny to think literally people would rather throw those early Datona's in the trash, that is what was the direct cause and effect of what makes them so expensive and rare now a days since no one had them and people were throwing it in the bin. So factually Omega you could say because literally already beat the tits of the Daytona. Well I understand you are talking prob about current day and the Speedy while not cheap as a few years ago which was at least three times less then the Daytona, if you wanted to do a more even comparison in price why not compare it with something like Omega Ed white? But then imho the Ed white is just a better done chronograph to the similar priced Daytona

What era? Roles was cheaper then Omega in the beginning. Rolex had the absolute great idea when going against Omega to instead of doing something silly like, building a better watch, they simply raised there prices. Sounds like im bashing Rolex but its true, they really should pat themselves on the backs to have created such sweeping control over the market by selling the allure and cachet of Rolex. At the end of the day Rolex is a tool watch. Unlike GS you will never be awestruck by the level of detail and or finishing. They will never push the boundaries of movement innovation like Omega. They don't hold a candle to high horology brand in being excellent craftsmenship. They don't give near the return for bang for your buck other brands are doing. Hell there is a reason you will never ever see them at GPHG trying to beat out there peers. They have only there image to hurt by doing that. Hell most of there brand history is made up anywho. Is it all smoke and mirrors? Perhaps, depends who you ask.

Rolex is like the apple of watches in the best of ways. There designs are iconic, so iconic I bet you 99% of people essentially only know Rolex and thats the only watch brand they can repeat. They did this by hiring and absorbing great makers and other parts of the industry to build there movements like Zenith with the Daytona and there El Primero or getting Ap's royal oak bracelet maker Gay Frères to come up with the famous oyster bracelet and then take him over. They play it safe and get things down to a science. Nothing is done by hand anymore, but there qc is great. There dimensions and catalogue of watches so solid they neither seemingly want nor need to ever really stray from that. They make very solid watches that do it all and fit in nice sleek sexy, albeit expensive time piece package. At the end of the day just like Apple they are their own thing, and almost its missing the point to ask questions like if they are "Better" then other brands. Good watches and that I would say depending on who you ask Rolex could very well be somehow both underrated and overrated at the same time when you break things down.

O yeah so I mean which of the rubber straps you prefer? Either in color, integrated fit, or quality. Thanks

Which you like better?