IWC pricing

Hi all. Newbie here in my 2nd year of watches. I'm interested to get either IWC mark XX or big pilot 43. But i find IWC pricing very puzzling. Both of the above-mentioned watches are time only (XX with date), but the price is similar to the chronographs models ? From my understanding, chronographs should be more expensive? Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks in advance

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Hello. BP43 owner here. It's a good question. Better finished movement, longer power reserve etc. are the things that can skew the pricing. BP for instance has a sapphire caseback to display a well finished movement inside. And the two models you reference have 'in-house' movements too (not getting into a debate about the definition of that term!...they are). Two very good options, if you ignore the inevitable comments about IWC being overpriced in general.

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TimeCop

Hello. BP43 owner here. It's a good question. Better finished movement, longer power reserve etc. are the things that can skew the pricing. BP for instance has a sapphire caseback to display a well finished movement inside. And the two models you reference have 'in-house' movements too (not getting into a debate about the definition of that term!...they are). Two very good options, if you ignore the inevitable comments about IWC being overpriced in general.

Thanks, so having the big pilot 43, do you think it's worth the price today ? I understand value is subjective as well but i just want to hear more opinions.

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The Mark XX and BP may look similar, but they wear quite differently and I don’t think of them as being in the same category. Note this might have changed with the BP43 … I tried the BP46 before.

Regardless, I suggest you try both of them on.

I personally prefer the Mark and the chrono.

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zeroheartknot

Thanks, so having the big pilot 43, do you think it's worth the price today ? I understand value is subjective as well but i just want to hear more opinions.

To me it is yes. Of course there are other watches that (in a way) offer more for less. But ultimately this is the watch I wanted. And had since they were released. Anyone who tells you to get a Laco or Stowa instead is simply wrong (IMHO). It's a luxury alternative.

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TimeCop

To me it is yes. Of course there are other watches that (in a way) offer more for less. But ultimately this is the watch I wanted. And had since they were released. Anyone who tells you to get a Laco or Stowa instead is simply wrong (IMHO). It's a luxury alternative.

Alright. I kind of get you. Value is a weird notion in luxury watches itself because we can actually tell time on our phone. Haha

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It should, but all these things are machine made and the chronograph is industrialised and produced on a scale where it doesn't matter all that much anymore.

The Mark XX uses the Richemont-wide shared movement which is probably why it's cheaper.

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UnsignedCrown

It should, but all these things are machine made and the chronograph is industrialised and produced on a scale where it doesn't matter all that much anymore.

The Mark XX uses the Richemont-wide shared movement which is probably why it's cheaper.

Thank u for your input !

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What @TimeCop said, I second that.

You have to buy what you like and has to fit, so try it on.

I made many trips to the boutique from wanting a chronograph to a mark xvii. But I knew it had to be IWC and not the others …

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Another BP43 owner here - I was actually looking to get the 41 chronograph and tried on the 43 and immediately knew it was the one for me. It's difficult to work out or rationalise value but for me it's something I won't be selling, so putting aside resale / depreciation makes it a little easier.

I think IWC base pricing on the movement used - the 82000 is generally more expensive than the 69000 chronograph watches and the 32000. The 82000 is used as a base for some of the higher end complications including perpetual calendars, so perhaps this is a measure of the positioning of this calibre.

My experience of the IWC boutiques for my 43 and my Mark XVI has been outstanding - as others have suggested go spend some time at one if you can and try a few watches, see what feels good for you.

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danmitch

Another BP43 owner here - I was actually looking to get the 41 chronograph and tried on the 43 and immediately knew it was the one for me. It's difficult to work out or rationalise value but for me it's something I won't be selling, so putting aside resale / depreciation makes it a little easier.

I think IWC base pricing on the movement used - the 82000 is generally more expensive than the 69000 chronograph watches and the 32000. The 82000 is used as a base for some of the higher end complications including perpetual calendars, so perhaps this is a measure of the positioning of this calibre.

My experience of the IWC boutiques for my 43 and my Mark XVI has been outstanding - as others have suggested go spend some time at one if you can and try a few watches, see what feels good for you.

Same sentiments on the point of "not selling", i can't sell any of my pieces, knowing it's part of the journey. Haha but that's just me.

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Mark XX and BP43 are so different when you see them in person. I was just shopping for IWCs a while ago. From memory pricing was BP43 > Chrono > Mark series. As people have mentioned, the Mark uses a shared movement whereas the BP 43 has its own in house calibre with a pretty nice power reserve.

I know lots of people love the Mark series, but IMHO it's a bit plain and you can get similar fit and finish with another brand if you like that look (longines, Oris, and many others), maybe with a bit less heritage. Same thing with their Chronos.

The BP43 and original BP really stand out from all other brands, though. I was close to getting one but I just couldn't justify buying one because I could never see myself regularly wearing that much dough on my wrist!! Now looking at Sinn because I realized I'm really looking for a hard wearing daily driver in the pilot/tool watch style