Old mechanical Citizen

Hello! I’m wondering what year this watch most likely is from, the movement type and it’s rarity? Thanks!

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Love that old Citizen font.

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V hard to tell but my initial reaction without handling it is that this might be a “Mumbai special” and it quite unlikely to feature in any of the Citizen catalogues.

It does indeed look like a Citizen movement probably from 1970s.

But the case, hands and especially the Citizen logo don’t look original to Citizen.

The term Mumbai special refers to watches created from various parts (e.g. movements) in locations such as Mumbai where you have skilled hard working people and large populations providing a ready market for their handiwork.

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TimeOnMyHands

V hard to tell but my initial reaction without handling it is that this might be a “Mumbai special” and it quite unlikely to feature in any of the Citizen catalogues.

It does indeed look like a Citizen movement probably from 1970s.

But the case, hands and especially the Citizen logo don’t look original to Citizen.

The term Mumbai special refers to watches created from various parts (e.g. movements) in locations such as Mumbai where you have skilled hard working people and large populations providing a ready market for their handiwork.

Thanks for the reply. I’ve tried searching the internet for the watch and one from eBay came up. Here the model name is C51110 but of course this one can be fake, anyway what should I look for when handling it?

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Sjoelin

Thanks for the reply. I’ve tried searching the internet for the watch and one from eBay came up. Here the model name is C51110 but of course this one can be fake, anyway what should I look for when handling it?

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There are a few out there but I am still far from convinced.

Here’s another …

https://www.marcelswatch.com/en/product/citizen/

The movement is a 5100 or 5110 which was used in women’s watches in the mid-1970s.

This would suggest your watch dates from February 1978.

I haven’t found every catalogue from the 1970s and of course it might have been a fashion item that didn’t make the catalogue but I couldn’t find anything like it in the catalogues that I found. And it’s the logo that really bothers me.

Hopefully an expert Cruncher might help us out.

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Sjoelin

Thanks for the reply. I’ve tried searching the internet for the watch and one from eBay came up. Here the model name is C51110 but of course this one can be fake, anyway what should I look for when handling it?

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Follow up: I’ve read that many fake Citizen’s have a logo with all the letters joined but here’s a 1967 ad for Citizen with a logo with joined letters. I guess this is why this field of expertise can be a difficult one to master.

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TimeOnMyHands

There are a few out there but I am still far from convinced.

Here’s another …

https://www.marcelswatch.com/en/product/citizen/

The movement is a 5100 or 5110 which was used in women’s watches in the mid-1970s.

This would suggest your watch dates from February 1978.

I haven’t found every catalogue from the 1970s and of course it might have been a fashion item that didn’t make the catalogue but I couldn’t find anything like it in the catalogues that I found. And it’s the logo that really bothers me.

Hopefully an expert Cruncher might help us out.

Thanks for the reply, it’s really good input.