I just unsubscribed from this facebook mod group as they are taking down everything with a non Seiko dial and a Seiko logo on it. Apparently they can tell which are not genuine. I get the copywrite laws but most all the mod dials use the logo anyway. Sterile dials are harder to get.
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What about crowns with the S on them? As much as I support counterfeiting, generic and unbranded is better yet.